das Abgründige

English translation: hidden knowledge

11:58 Apr 19, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
German term or phrase: das Abgründige
From the same text as a few days ago.
”Wie entsteht die Welt? Welches sind mögliche Ansätze, um ein Bild von ihr zu vermitteln? Oder noch besser: Wie lässt sich dieses geheime Wissen, das in jedem schlummert, jedoch fest vergraben ist, bruchstückhaft erinnern? Dies sind Fragen, die – so meine These, den Künstler in seinem Schaffen immer bewegt haben und ihn in seinen jüngeren Werken, so auch in „Noses & Ears Etc.“ verstärkt umtreiben.

Woran mache ich nun diese Brüchigkeit und **das Abgründige** fest? Der Besucher der Ausstellung erfreut sich zunächst an der fröhlichen bunten Farbenwelt, die auf glamourös wirkende schwarz-weiß Fotografie buchstäblich zu liegen kommt und an zahlreiche Filme erinnert, ohne eine klare Zuordnung zu erlauben. "
My translation so far:
"What prompts me to ascribe brittleness and "das Abgründige"...."
Leander1
Switzerland
Local time: 03:17
English translation:hidden knowledge
Explanation:
If I understand this correctly, the author is referring to the knowledge that is hidden beyond the conscious thought.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2009-04-19 22:41:58 GMT)
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or maybe:

hidden depth of knowledge
knowledge beyond conscious comprehension
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RegineMac
United States
Local time: 18:17
Grading comment
I received so many comments etc. that I cannot really mark them properly. The discussion was most interesting and helpful, and I do thank you all very much.
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Summary of answers provided
4Myth
Erich Friese
2 +1hidden knowledge
RegineMac
Summary of reference entries provided
Brainstorm
Kim Metzger

Discussion entries: 9





  

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Myth


Explanation:
abgründig Adj. bes. fig. (rätselhaft) mysterious; Geheimnis: unfathomable; Humor etc.: cryptic
© Langenscheidt KG, Berlin und München

Erich Friese
Australia
Local time: 11:17
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
hidden knowledge


Explanation:
If I understand this correctly, the author is referring to the knowledge that is hidden beyond the conscious thought.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2009-04-19 22:41:58 GMT)
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or maybe:

hidden depth of knowledge
knowledge beyond conscious comprehension

RegineMac
United States
Local time: 18:17
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 2
Grading comment
I received so many comments etc. that I cannot really mark them properly. The discussion was most interesting and helpful, and I do thank you all very much.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator): as the original text says earlier: "...dieses geheime Wissen, das in jedem schlummert..."
2 days 7 hrs
  -> Thanks, Harald!
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +4
Reference: Brainstorm

Reference information:
Wie lässt sich dieses geheime Wissen, das in jedem schlummert, jedoch fest vergraben ist, bruchstückhaft erinnern?
Carl Jung's collective unconscious, genetic, ancestral memory

Wie lässt sich dieses geheime Wissen ...bruchstückhaft erinnern?
Woran mache ich nun diese Brüchigkeit und das Abgründige fest?

Muret-Sanders
Abgründig – unfathomable, inscrutable
(zerklüftet) – abysmal, precipitous
immeasurably, immensely,

bruchstückhaft Brüchigkeit fragmentary

How do I capture this fragmentary and unfathomable knowledge?
Festmachen – make s.th. concrete, capture

Kim Metzger
Mexico
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 80

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Helen Shiner: I like unfathomable - and lo! You read festmachen as I do - see Asker's previous question, but there are several voices against that interpretation!
18 mins
agree  franglish: excellent!
2 hrs
agree  Bernhard Sulzer: with fragmentary and unfathomable kn.; He plunged into the unfathomable depths of the psyche, and sought to kindle a flame of illumination that would reveal the mystery and purpose of human existence: http://www.twilighttimesbooks.com/GoldenAge_ch1.html
3 hrs
agree  Stephen Reader: Yesyes. And another ingredient to the pot for "geheim": arcane...
7 hrs
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