farbräumliche Tiefe

English translation: tonal depth / depth of colour

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German term or phrase:	farbräumliche Tiefe
English translation:	tonal depth / depth of colour
Entered by:	Catherine Winzer

08:48 Jul 18, 2011

German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting

German term or phrase: farbräumliche Tiefe

"Linien und Liniensegmente verknüpfen sich in wechselnder Zuordnung zu einzelnen Binnenkonstellationen, die das Geflecht von Gitterstrukturen mit Zonen ***farbräumlicher Tiefe*** und Modulationen farbiger Lichthaftigkeit hinterlegen."

From a description of a series of paintings. The full text can be found on page 5 of the following PDF:
http://www.guenter-malchow.de/pdf/Katalog_web_stromata.pdf

I found "colour space" for "Farbraum", but I'm not sure if it fits this context and, if so, how to combine it with "depth".

Catherine Winzer KudoZ activity Questions: 134 (1 open) (2 closed without grading) Answers: 158 Germany
Local time: 10:09

tonal depth / depth of colour

Explanation:
Maybe even saturation of colour/colour saturation

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-18 12:41:41 GMT)
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Aerial perspective - Due to light scattering by the atmosphere, objects that are a great distance away have lower luminance contrast and lower color saturation. In computer graphics, this is often called "distance fog". The foreground has high contrast; the background has low contrast. Objects differing only in their contrast with a background appear to be at different depths. The color of distant objects are also shifted toward the blue end of the spectrum (e.g., distant mountains). Some painters, notably Cézanne, employ "warm" pigments (red, yellow and orange) to bring features forward towards the viewer, and "cool" ones (blue, violet, and blue-green) to indicate the part of a form that curves away from the picture plane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception

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Note added at 3 days6 hrs (2011-07-21 15:25:15 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, Catherine

Selected response from:

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:09

Grading comment

I chose "tonal depth". Thank you, Helen, and thank you to everyone else, too, for the interesting discussion!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +5

tonal depth / depth of colour

Helen Shiner

3 +1

color and spatial depth

Betty Cooper (X)

zones of color shading providing spatial depth

reorient

colour(ful) spatial depth

Ramey Rieger (X)

colored zones giving spatial depth

Günther Toussaint

Summary of reference entries provided

nothing to do with space

Jim Tucker (X)

Discussion entries: 8

Nicola Wood

Austria

agree with Helen

12:34 Jul 18, 2011

Like Helen I read this as referring to the colour only, with farbräumlich being an adjective based on Farbraum, not including a separate reference to räumlich, so no need to refer to spatiality or perspective.

Helen Shiner

United Kingdom

@Catherine

10:18 Jul 18, 2011

I agree that your other examples refer to spatiality. But here it is depth of colour/tone, which in itself may create spatial illusions (eg one colour appearing to be nearer the picture plane than another; one colour appearing to recede. Think reds and whites, for instance.

Catherine Winzer

Germany

ASKER

spatiality

10:11 Jul 18, 2011

Thanks for your comments, Helen. You may well be right that "Farbraum" is referring to the colour spectrum rather than spatiality as such. The text does, however, talk about spatiality in the paintings, such as in the following sentence (on the previous page):

"Im Gitter aus Senkrechten und Waagerechten entstehen an den Kreuzungspunkten zweier Linien durch die Überlagerung räumliche Abstände, welche die Raumwirkungen der Farben aufgreifen oder sie kontrastieren."

I'm not sure if "farbräumlich" is referring to this or not.

Helen Shiner

United Kingdom

@Ramey

10:03 Jul 18, 2011

Please see my suggested answer. I don't think this is about spatiality as such, except in terms of the sense conveyed by the concept of the spectrum.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

Okay

09:43 Jul 18, 2011

I would usually translate "Farbraum" with (colour) spectrum. but in this case I'm somewhat stumped by "farbräumlich", after reading your entry. How would you combine the two concepts? At first I was considering "perspective depth of colour" (spectrum?). Only answer if you have the time and desire to do so.

Helen Shiner

United Kingdom

@ Ramey

09:28 Jul 18, 2011

It seems to me that the word in question is an adjective based on Farbraum, not Raum per se.

Ramey Rieger (X)

Germany

@ Helen

09:24 Jul 18, 2011

I respect your expertise on the subject, and would like to ask you if, in this case "räumlich" has little to do with spatiality? I am not a German native speaker, so it seems like a "language trap".

Helen Shiner

United Kingdom

Farbraum

09:17 Jul 18, 2011

I would suggest that Farbraum here means colour spectrum, so these passages/areas contain a wide spectrum of colours. I think you will need to rewrite the sentence a bit.

Answers

12 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

color and spatial depth

Explanation:
This is what I came up with when I thought of 'Farbe' and 'räumliche Tiefe'.

Spell it 'colour' (BE) or 'color' (AE).

Betty Cooper (X)
Sweden
Native speaker of:

English

14 mins confidence:

colour(ful) spatial depth

Explanation:
my suggestion

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 10:09
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

30 mins confidence:

colored zones giving spatial depth

Explanation:
… with colored zones giving spatial depth and modulations of luminosity to the mesh of grid structures…

Exaples found @ linguee, e.g.:
Dabei gelang es ihm, den Bildern räumliche Tiefe zu geben = he succeeded in giving the pictures a spatial depth

Reference: http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/r%E4umli...

Günther Toussaint
Local time: 10:09
Native speaker of:

German

1 day 10 hrs confidence:

zones of color shading providing spatial depth

Explanation:
This HAS to do with space, as color is one of the ways to convey perspective in a painting.
For color perspective see http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/Color/ColorTheory/Lesson5...

Example sentence(s):

Trained artists are keenly aware of the various methods for indicating spatial depth (color shading, distance fog, perspective and relative size), and take advantage of them to make their works appear "real".

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception#Depth_percepti...

reorient
Local time: 11:09
Native speaker of:

German

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

tonal depth / depth of colour

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 275

Grading comment

I chose "tonal depth". Thank you, Helen, and thank you to everyone else, too, for the interesting discussion!

Reference comments

10 hrs peer agreement (net): +1

Reference: nothing to do with space

Reference information:
as here

Reference: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farbraum

Jim Tucker (X)
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

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