proper Kameralistisch

English translation: balancing the budget

17:48 Feb 2, 2017
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics / public authorities
German term or phrase: proper Kameralistisch
Wie wenig zielorientiert, realistisch und – ja – (proper kameralistisch) gedacht wird, zeigt sich etwa mit den sogenannten unbegleiteten minderjährigen Flüchtlingen.

The next sentence is:

Allein das Land Nordrhein-Westfalen, notorisch knapp bei Kasse, hat 13.600 solcher Flüchtlinge und gibt hierfür aktuell 632 Millionen Euro pro Jahr aus – bei Monatskosten von 4.500 Euro pro Kind.

My translation so far:

"How little thought is given to goals, how unrealistic it is and, yes, improper from a budget point of view, can be seen by the example of unaccompanied minor refugees."

Kameralistische Buchfuehrung is single-entry bookkeeping, but I am not sure how to incorporate that into the sentence. I am pretty sure what is meant is the overall concept of bookkeeping, accounting, budget etc, rather than the fact that it is single-entry booking and not double-entry. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Markus Heinrich
Ireland
English translation:balancing the budget
Explanation:
..how little thought is given to balancing the budget

I think that's what they're concerned about..
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Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 17:33
Grading comment
Thanks, Michael! I actually wasn't that far off!
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3 +1balancing the budget
Michael Martin, MA
3Pretty naive/irresponsible
phillee
3in terms of proper cameralistic accounting
Marc Svetov
3in true bureaucratic fashion
Wendy Streitparth
Summary of reference entries provided
Wikipedia
philgoddard

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
balancing the budget


Explanation:
..how little thought is given to balancing the budget

I think that's what they're concerned about..

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 17:33
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 76
Grading comment
Thanks, Michael! I actually wasn't that far off!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
8 mins

disagree  Martin Ris: This seems too narrow and technical. Please see below.
3 days 54 mins
  -> It's just a standard phrase, not a technical expression. But if you have a better solution, I am willing to listen..

agree  Björn Vrooman: Late to the party, but it's never too late to defend an answer (see discussion box).
4 days
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Pretty naive/irresponsible


Explanation:
The state is very naive, bordering on the irresponsible, by not considering ... or calculating the consequences of its actions

Example sentence(s):
  • The state government is naive about the consequences of its unhindered spending

    Reference: http://kommunalwiki.boell.de/index.php/Kameralistik
phillee
Local time: 22:33
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in terms of proper cameralistic accounting


Explanation:
"Throughout the 18th and the first half of the 19th century cameralist science was influential in Northern European states, for example Prussia and Sweden, and its academics and practitioners were pioneers in oeconomic, environmental and administrative knowledge and technology, for example cameralistic accounting, still used in public finance today." Wikipedia


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameralism
Marc Svetov
United States
Local time: 16:33
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in true bureaucratic fashion


Explanation:
... but you'd have to rearrange your sentence a little!

Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Local time: 23:33
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 21
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Reference comments


22 mins peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Wikipedia

Reference information:
This has various meanings, but I think this is the relevant one:

Ferner wird unter Kameralistik das Wirtschaften (Handeln) der öffentlichen Hand nach Maßgabe von Haushaltsplänen verstanden und der „planerischen Freiheit“ der privaten Unternehmer gegenübergestellt.

So "from a purely budgetary point of view".


    Reference: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kameralistik
philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 39

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  BrigitteHilgner
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agree  seehand
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