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ihn..... in die Schuhe zu schieben.

English translation: to blame it on them

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German term or phrase:ihn..... in die Schuhe zu schieben.
English translation:to blame it on them
Entered by: LisaV20

14:36 Apr 10, 2012
German to English translations [PRO]
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
German term or phrase: ihn..... in die Schuhe zu schieben.
Sie sollen zur Schwächung
der Demokratie Terror
selbst inszeniert haben, um
ihn Kurden und Linken in
die Schuhe zu schieben.

Does 'ihn' refer to the Terror? Basically they wanted to weaken democracy so they could push the blame onto the Kurds and leftists?

(about the Turkish mafia organisation Ergenekon)
LisaV20
United States
Local time: 11:28
to blame it on them
Explanation:
i.e. make them scapegoats for it.

Yes, the "ihn" refers to the terror.

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Note added at 3 days3 hrs (2012-04-13 17:40:49 GMT)
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or rather, so that they would take the blame for it
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Colin Rowe
Germany
Local time: 11:28
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Thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +11to blame it on them
Colin Rowe
3 +2to frame..
Michael Martin, MA


  

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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
to frame..


Explanation:
They orchestrated terror attacks themselves to frame Kurds and leftists.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2012-04-10 19:27:41 GMT)
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Actually - make that:
"They are said to have framed Kurds and leftists for terror attacks they orchestrated themselves."

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Note added at 13 hrs (2012-04-11 03:39:26 GMT)
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On second thought... more accurate for reported speech to qualify the orchestration part, not the framing part:

"They are said to have orchestrated acts of terror themselves to frame Kurds and leftists and to weaken democracy."

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 05:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 63

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  palilula (X): This suggestion is better for the informal expression in German.
3 hrs
  -> Thanks!
agree  Barbara Schmidt-Runkel: the problem is that the metaphor was used incorrectly in German. It should be "um Kurden etc. die Schuld in die Schiuhe zu schieben" not the deed itself. This mafia group is not doing the blaming but they want to make sure the Kurds get the blame.
1 day 13 hrs
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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +11
to blame it on them


Explanation:
i.e. make them scapegoats for it.

Yes, the "ihn" refers to the terror.

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Note added at 3 days3 hrs (2012-04-13 17:40:49 GMT)
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or rather, so that they would take the blame for it

Colin Rowe
Germany
Local time: 11:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 63
Grading comment
Thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jccantrell
0 min
agree  franglish
17 mins
agree  Steffen Walter
21 mins
agree  Dr Lofthouse
57 mins
agree  Armorel Young
1 hr
agree  Melanie Meyer
1 hr
agree  Horst Huber (X): Impute it to them is definitely the point, or "lay it at their door"? Something for native speakers.
1 hr
agree  Pauline Alexiou
2 hrs
agree  Ramey Rieger (X): yup
4 hrs
agree  Stefan Scholtz
17 hrs
agree  Wendy Lewin
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