Was Hans über Hänschen erzählt, sagt mehr über Hans aus als über Hänschen

English translation: What you say about others ..

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German term or phrase:Was Hans über Hänschen erzählt, sagt mehr über Hans aus als über Hänschen
English translation:What you say about others ..
Entered by: Esther Park

08:58 Jan 12, 2014
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German term or phrase: Was Hans über Hänschen erzählt, sagt mehr über Hans aus als über Hänschen
From a description of a management seminar:

"Gleichwohl formen diese Geschichten bei den Zuhörern stets ein Bild des Gegenübers nach dem Motto: „Was Hans über Hänschen erzählt, sagt mehr über Hans aus als über Hänschen“.
Esther Park
United States
Local time: 14:28
What you say about others ..
Explanation:
..paints a worse picture of you than it does of others

..reflects/reveals more about you than about them

..speaks volumes about you, not about them.

..puts you in a worse light than those you're whining about

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Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 17:28
Grading comment
Second one is perfect. Thank you!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4What you say says more about you than it does about others.
Yorkshireman
3 +3What you say about others ..
Michael Martin, MA
3 +1Whenever you point at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you
Ramey Rieger (X)
Summary of reference entries provided
Online discussion about the proverb and an online use of it by a native German speaker
Brian Pitts

Discussion entries: 6





  

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Whenever you point at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you


Explanation:
This is a teaching I learned from a Native American. I think it comes very close to what is being indicated. The German is not a common idiom and this is personalized version of "do unto others"

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 23:28
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 70

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gudrun Wolfrath: idiomatic
1 day 2 hrs
  -> Thanks Gudrun, hope you've gotten off to good start this year!
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
What you say about others ..


Explanation:
..paints a worse picture of you than it does of others

..reflects/reveals more about you than about them

..speaks volumes about you, not about them.

..puts you in a worse light than those you're whining about



Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 17:28
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 63
Grading comment
Second one is perfect. Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters: Your second explanation
4 hrs
  -> Thanks, Trudy!

agree  Gudrun Wolfrath
23 hrs
  -> Thanks, Gudrun!

agree  Eleanore Strauss: yes, the second one... nice!
3 days 46 mins
  -> Thanks, Elli!
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
What you say says more about you than it does about others.


Explanation:
Without Hans or Hänschen (and the proverbial klein Fritzchen)

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Note added at 6 hrs (2014-01-12 15:00:44 GMT)
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Alternatives:

What you say about others says a lot about you.

What you say about others says more about you than them.

What you say of others reflects on you.

Judge not, lest you be judged by your own words.

A little off-track:

"You can tell more about a person by what he says about others than you can by what others say about him." Audrey Hepburn


Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 23:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 39

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Trudy Peters: I like your second alternative
6 hrs

agree  Phoebe Indetzki
19 hrs

agree  Poostforoush
20 hrs

agree  Gudrun Wolfrath: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
1 day 2 hrs
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Reference comments


53 mins peer agreement (net): +4
Reference: Online discussion about the proverb and an online use of it by a native German speaker

Reference information:
The two links I'm providing may be helpful. The first takes you to an online discussion thread about the proverb in question. The second is an online discussion thread in which a user, Theosoph, uses the proverb in a post made on 11.12.2013 at 08:36.

Hope that helps.


    Reference: http://forum.dict.cc/forum-questions/detail-539466-Hans-und-...
    Reference: http://www.allmystery.de/themen/ar78451-36
Brian Pitts
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  BrigitteHilgner: I don't think "Was Hans über Hänschen erzählt ..." is a common expression - I've never heard/read it before.
12 mins
agree  writeaway
33 mins
agree  mcbride: "Was Haenschen nicht lernt, lernt Hans nimmermehr" - so lautet das bekannte Sprichwort
1 hr
agree  Ines R.: it refers in my opinion to the proverb proposed by Brian
3 hrs
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