Ursprung-Quelle

English translation: root and source

08:20 Oct 30, 2012
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / philosophy of aesthetics
German term or phrase: Ursprung-Quelle
"Eine Methode die den Ruf hat, die Entstehungsbedingungen freizulegen, ist die Genealogie. Die genealogische Herangehensweise strebt nicht lediglich danach den Ursprung eines Gegenstand bzw. Sachverhalts freizulegen, sondern eben auch die Quelle, die den Ursprung (mit-)verantwortet zu erkennen. Sie verlangt die 'peinliche Genauigkeit des Wissens, eine Vielzahl angehäufter Materialien, Geduld.' (Foucault) Der Suche nach dem Ursprung mag das Postulat inne wohnen, das, wenn der Ursprung freigelegt ist, einher eine Wahrheitsfindung geht. Doch dies ist der Irrtum einer wörtlichen Übersetzung von Genealogie, denn die Wahrheit der Dinge wird von der Wahrheit des Diskurses verdunkelt, ja sogar zum Verschwinden gebracht."

What English word pair captures this nuance?
Eric Zink
Local time: 15:27
English translation:root and source
Explanation:
My take
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Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 09:27
Grading comment
That was my original thought. Still seems a bit arbitrary, but I'll go with it.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +5origin - source
Phoebe Indetzki
3roots / innate forces
gangels (X)
3root and source
Michael Martin, MA
2genesis -reference
Ramey Rieger (X)


Discussion entries: 2





  

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origin - source


Explanation:
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Phoebe Indetzki
Local time: 15:27
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Usch Pilz
1 hr

agree  Wendy Lewin
1 hr

agree  philgoddard
4 hrs

agree  Helen Shiner: Yes, why not go with the obvious?
5 hrs

agree  Ramey Rieger (X): yes, why not?
7 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
genesis -reference


Explanation:
perhaps

Ramey Rieger (X)
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roots / innate forces


Explanation:
to not only bring to light an object's roots, but the innate forces [co]engendering those roots

Quelle here is more of a reference to the active agent (i.e. innate forces) spawning those roots

gangels (X)
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
root and source


Explanation:
My take

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 09:27
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Grading comment
That was my original thought. Still seems a bit arbitrary, but I'll go with it.
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