identitärer Selbsvergewisserungen

English translation: self-assurance of one\'s identity

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German term or phrase:identitärer Selbsvergewisserungen
English translation:self-assurance of one\'s identity
Entered by: Ramey Rieger (X)

10:38 Feb 13, 2015
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: identitärer Selbsvergewisserungen
And another one. Here, we have relative freedom. I am momentarily at a loss as to how to translate identitär - the dics give me identitarian (generous, but useless as I can't imagine what they are talking about), but a definition for identitarian remains elusive. And then, in combination with self-assuring?

'Only thus can the identifying/identity's self-conviction/self-assurance create a public platform/space for negotiatian, communication and thought.'

Im zirkulären Prozess der Aneignung und in der wiederholten Annäherung an den Text und den theoretischen Raum, den er beschreibt, versucht sie den Text für unsere Erfahrung zu öffnen. Eine solche Öffnung erzeugt die Möglichkeit für Verknüpfungen und eine fließende Ausdehnung über den akademischen Diskurs-Apparat hinaus. Nur so kann die Erfahrung mit dem Text politisch virulent werden. Jenseits der Totalbewirtschaftung des Lebens bzw. identitärer Selbsvergewisserungen kann so ein öffentlicher Raum der Verhandlung, der Verständigung und des Denkens entstehen, in dem wir souverän unsere Angst überwinden und die heitere Kraft dafür erlangen, all das zu tun, von dem wir lange wissen, dass es notwendig ist.

I'm all eyes and ears!
Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 01:39
self-assurance of one's identity
Explanation:
I'd understand "identitär" as "relating to identity" here. No idea whether this will work with "identitarian". Others will find better ways to phrase this, but I think my suggestion will cover the meaning well enough.

I do suspect that this is a pleonasm, though. What else is self-assurance about than one's own identity?
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Erik Freitag
Germany
Local time: 01:39
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This has been VERY difficult, as there is so much to pack into it. In the end, I used identity of self-reassurance, as the text deals with revealing underlying sources of strength beyond an identity of self-reassurance. THANK YOU all, it has been a wonderful, edifying challenge!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1identitarian self-assurances
Donald Jacobson
4self-affirmation of identity
Helen Shiner
2 +1self-assurance of one's identity
Erik Freitag
3pursuits of self-validation
Michael Martin, MA


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identitärer Selbstvergewisserungen
self-assurance of one's identity


Explanation:
I'd understand "identitär" as "relating to identity" here. No idea whether this will work with "identitarian". Others will find better ways to phrase this, but I think my suggestion will cover the meaning well enough.

I do suspect that this is a pleonasm, though. What else is self-assurance about than one's own identity?

Erik Freitag
Germany
Local time: 01:39
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
This has been VERY difficult, as there is so much to pack into it. In the end, I used identity of self-reassurance, as the text deals with revealing underlying sources of strength beyond an identity of self-reassurance. THANK YOU all, it has been a wonderful, edifying challenge!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Susanne Rindlisbacher: assertion of one's identity
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pursuits of self-validation


Explanation:
"..Only thus can textual experience sprout in the political arena. Beyond commodification of life and/or pursuits of self-validation, a public space can be created…"

These are just my suggestions for the basic components. Depending on what you select from it, if anything, and how you handle the rest of the sentence, you could wind up with very different sentence structures, of course.


Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 19:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank-you Michael, food for thought!

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identitarian self-assurances


Explanation:
The Identitarian movement is a pan-European socio-political movement started in France in 2002 as a far right youth movement deriving from the French Nouvelle Droite Génération Identitaire. Initially the youth wing of the anti-immigrant, far-right Bloc Identitaire, it has taken on its own identity and is largely classed as a separate entity altogether with the intent of spreading across Europe, a goal that has largely failed to manifest beyond France.

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See their respective articles on Wikipedia: identitarian movement, Identitäre Bewegung, identitära rörelsen (Swedish).

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Ethnopluralism emphasizes the duty for every people of the Earth to fight for the preservation of their uniqueness, which requires that they keep their customs and traditions alive and make them flourish. It understands that cultures are clearly defined entities that should not be steamrolled over by abstract principles. We don’t want a universalistic monoculture, we want ethnopluralism. While we wish for all cultures and identities to be preserved, our main concern should always be our own identity.

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We Are Identitarians — RADIX JOURNAL
www.radixjournal.com/.../we-are-identita...
Mobile-friendly - Feb 5, 2014 - The primary purpose of Identitarianism must be the preservation of our identity-- the cultural and ...

Donald Jacobson
United States
Local time: 18:39
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Anne Schulz: At the very least, the translation of "identitäre Selbstvergewisserung" must leave open the possibility that this term hints to the Identitarian movement (red-lining, ostracizing), rather than philosophical self-affirmation and person concepts!
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  -> Thanks, Anne!
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self-affirmation of identity


Explanation:
Seems to me this is about who defines one's public persona: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-affirmation

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Or self-affirmation of one's [public] persona

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Hi Ramey, hopefully when you translate 'jenseits' it will be clear that that is intended. My reading (very brief indeed) of the text suggests it means going beyond standard ways of asserting one's public or external identity, such as constructing a partial view of it on Facebook, over which we have supposed total control. Apologies, if in my rush (busy here!), I haven't quite grasped it from the excerpt you give.

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You could also perhaps shrink the term to simply say the assertion of one's own identity, or you might feel you have to unpack it a bit.

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 43
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Helen! Yes, I'm familiar with this term and attaining self-affirmation is a positive process. The performance, however, aims at going beyond a superficial concept of identity - which true self-affirmation is not, as it is based on being attentive to your true or inner needs. I'm really struggling with it and am very relieved to have your input!

Asker: Yes, beyond these things is where the space for negotiation, communication and thinking emerges. I will consider assertion of identity, haven't tried that one yet. thanks and keep the stress levels low.

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