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VORGANGSHAFTIGKEIT

English translation: processivity, processness

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German term or phrase:VORGANGSHAFTIGKEIT
English translation:processivity, processness
Entered by: anders1956

08:33 Apr 20, 2019
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: VORGANGSHAFTIGKEIT
Problem word -- Vorgangshaftigkeit:

I am translating (German into English) a critique of Cultural Marxism, and the author uses the coinage "VORGANGSHAFTIGKEIT", which I have rendered, on a preliminary basis, as "PROCESSABILITY".

Here is the SOLE paragraph where the term (which has a total of TEN Google hits!) appears:

Wahrend die Wirklichkeit in der christlichen Seinslehre, die ja das Weltbild durch die Jahrhunderte bestimmt hatte, als Teilhabe an der absoluten Seinsfülle Gottes verstanden wurde (bzw. wird), kam es aufgrund der naturwissenschaftlichen Denkhaltung, die seit der Renaissance immer machtiger wurde, zu einer Reduktion des Seinsverstandnisses hin auf die bloße VORGANGSHAFTIGKEIT, gerade als ware alle Wirklichkeit nichts anderes, als die Summe von in sich bedeutungslosen Ablaufen und Geschehnissen in Raum und Zeit. Über den Nominalismus und das darauf folgende Zeitalter der Aufklarung und der Naturwissenschaften hat sich so eine dem Dialektischen Materialismus nicht unähnliche Denkform entwickelt, die nur mehr das als Wirklichkeit anzunehmen bereit war, was "gemessen, gewogen und gezahlt" (Descartes) werden kann. So ist ein rein innerweltlich verstandenes Sein (die bloße Gegenstandlichkeit) und ein vom Übernatürlichen -bernatiirlichen abgetrenntes Werden (die reine VORGANGSHAFTIGKEIT) zum allgemeinen Seinsprinzip erhoben worden. Diese Absolutsetzung der rein innerweltlichen Kräfte und Zustände hat nun in Verbindung mit dem immer starker werdenden Wissenschaftsglauben zu einer allgemeinen und zumeist unreflektierten Übernahme der Prinzipien der Dialektik geführt, welche der ideale Nahrboden für eine weitere Metamorphose des Marxismus sein sollte: für den Neo-Marxismus der Frankfurter Schule.

Any suggestions??

Thank you!

RE Anderson
Chicago, IL, USA
anders1956
United States
processivity, processness
Explanation:
I am not an expert in philosophy, therefore the following considerations are merely 'linguistic' and given with a low CL.

IMO, X-haftigkeit means having the nature of (an) X. Some of the corresponding English endings would be -ness or -ivity (whereas "X-ability" would indicate the possibility to be 'X-ed', in your case: to be processed, wouldn't it?).

If you have decided on a translation for "Gegenständlichkeit", you might consider to choose a similar construct for "Vorgangshaftigkeit", as they are parallels in this phrase (e.g. "objectivity–processivity").

NB: I am aware that the term processivity has recently been created and is occupied for the field of biochemistry. However – about as rarely as you found "Vorgangshaftigkeit" – "processivity" may also be found in philosophical contexts.
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Anne Schulz
Germany
Local time: 04:35
Grading comment
Yes, processivity works very well -- particularly given the "objectivity" close by in the text!
Thank you!!
REA / Chicago, IL, USA
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4processuality
Helen Shiner
4mechanistic-stition
Herbmione Granger
2processivity, processness
Anne Schulz
Summary of reference entries provided
finding only
liz askew

Discussion entries: 6





  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Vorgangshaftigkeit
processivity, processness


Explanation:
I am not an expert in philosophy, therefore the following considerations are merely 'linguistic' and given with a low CL.

IMO, X-haftigkeit means having the nature of (an) X. Some of the corresponding English endings would be -ness or -ivity (whereas "X-ability" would indicate the possibility to be 'X-ed', in your case: to be processed, wouldn't it?).

If you have decided on a translation for "Gegenständlichkeit", you might consider to choose a similar construct for "Vorgangshaftigkeit", as they are parallels in this phrase (e.g. "objectivity–processivity").

NB: I am aware that the term processivity has recently been created and is occupied for the field of biochemistry. However – about as rarely as you found "Vorgangshaftigkeit" – "processivity" may also be found in philosophical contexts.

Anne Schulz
Germany
Local time: 04:35
Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Yes, processivity works very well -- particularly given the "objectivity" close by in the text!
Thank you!!
REA / Chicago, IL, USA
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
processuality


Explanation:
See my discussion box comments: https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/jso.2016.2.issue-1/j...

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The term is used in section 4 of that article.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2019-04-20 11:46:39 GMT)
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See also: https://books.google.com/books/about/Processual_Sociology.ht...

Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 43

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, writeaway
agree  Anne Schulz: Sounds better than processivity :-)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Anne :-)
agree  Adrian MM.
8 hrs
  -> Thanks, Adrian MM.
agree  Ventnai
3 days 1 hr
  -> Thank you, ventnai
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3 days 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Vorgangshaftigkeit
mechanistic-stition


Explanation:
It would be easier to use the adjective in both cases. Ex: a purely mechanistic view of the world and society.

https://www.dict.cc/?s=mechanism
mechanism [fig.] -> Vorgang

https://www.helles-koepfchen.de/artikel/3360.html
Vor allem "Atheisten" (also Menschen, die an eine Welt ohne Gott glauben) wie die Franzosen La Mettrie und Diderot vertraten ein materialistisches Weltbild. Sie gingen auch davon aus, dass alle Vorgänge in der Welt durch Naturgesetze vorbestimmt sind - diesen Standpunkt nennt man auch "mechanistisch".

https://www.vandenhoeck-ruprecht-verlage.com/themen-entdecke...
Die Lebewesen seien ohne Absicht ausschließlich durch rein mechanistisch-materialistische Prozesse entstanden.

http://www.psychologie.uni-oldenburg.de/fachschaft/scripte/a...
Mit einfachen und rein mechanistisch verstandenen Systemen wird nicht nur Geld verschwendet, es können sogar Demotivationseffekte ausgelöst werden.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/mechanistic
1.1 Determined by physical processes alone.
‘he insisted that animals were entirely mechanistic’

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/mechanistic.htm...
A viewpoint that states that the behavior of complex systems, such as individuals, societies, and economies, are determined strictly by the interactions of the parts or factors of which they are composed. Mechanistic theories are in opposition to philosophies such as vitalism, which claim that the behavior of a system is influenced by a separate or external quality, such as the "spirit" of a nation or the "mood" of an economy.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ludwig-Feuerbach
Continuing this view in his most important work, Das Wesen des Christentums (1841; The Essence of Christianity), Feuerbach posited the notion that man is to himself his own object of thought and that religion is nothing more than a consciousness of the infinite. The result of this view is the notion that God is merely the outward projection of man’s inward nature. In the first part of his book, which strongly influenced Marx, Feuerbach analyzed the “true or anthropological essence of religion.”

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/from-mechanical-materi...

Herbmione Granger
Germany
Local time: 04:35
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Adrian MM.: a somewhat errant tongue-twister....//Yes, it can be, as Helen S. has done and to whom you might be more gracious.
8 hrs
  -> I was demonstrating that it can't be translated 1:1. I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand. //This is clearly a Philosophy question, and I have a Philosophy degree...
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Reference comments


8 mins
Reference: finding only

Reference information:
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0483.1970.tb00780.x/pdf
in the 17th and 18th centuries, where it is mainly 'vorgangshaft-erzahlend' (Burger: 'So sprang er auf und rennte,/ Als ob der Kopf ihm brennte') or 'gedanklich'.

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gradual process/gradual process of events??

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Note added at 22 mins (2019-04-20 08:55:50 GMT)
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What is Marxism?: An Introduction to Marxist Theory
https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1900007576
Rob Sewell, ‎Alan Woods - 2015
However, evolution is generally understood as a slow and gradual process without interruptions or violent upheavals. In politics, this kind of argument is ...

bit of a guess to be honest

liz askew
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Adrian MM.: Impressed that you are now diversifying into German, I like the Burger part of your ref. and wish it were 'beefed up' - to be washed down with good-old Portsmouth-brewed Brickwoods Beer I used to sample half a century ago, but sadly is no more.
3 days 10 hrs
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