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Kröndl

English translation: Crown (bridal and maiden’s crown)

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German term or phrase:Kröndl
English translation:Crown (bridal and maiden’s crown)
Entered by: Yorkshireman

15:02 Aug 15, 2014
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
German term or phrase: Kröndl
Description of a "Trachtenausstellung" in the Tyrol.
"Männer und Frauen zeigen die Herstellung von schmückenden Elementen, wie die Anfertigung von Braut- und Jungfernkröndln, verschiedene Kopfbedeckungen ...."

I have found that this could be a "Kranz" but it could also be a decorative hair clasp like this one: https://www.google.at/search?q=kranl&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tb...

I have a feeling the latter is more accurate. Grateful for any help - and does the "Jungfern" here mean something akin to bridesmaids, or rather the "unmarried" girls/women attending a wedding....?
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
Austria
Local time: 13:43
Crown (bridal and maiden’s crown)
Explanation:
This photo shows a typical bridal crown
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--pEtSz_QWZ8/US95w2yGdbI/AAAAAAAAKs...

from the Rhaetian Alps. I expect that it would be similar in Tyrol.

As "Kröndl" appears to be a typical Alpine diminutive, I would expect it to mean a "small crown", as shown in the photo..


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Note added at 27 mins (2014-08-15 15:29:15 GMT)
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Full-fledged Brautkronen can be enormous, like these from the Black Forest: http://ais.badische-zeitung.de/piece/03/97/38/08/60241928-w-...

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-08-15 17:00:53 GMT)
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Another article from the Black Forest:
http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.schwarzwaelder-trac...

Here's a Brautkrone from Northern Germany:
http://www.heimatmuseum-warnemuende.de/images/-006ac-Brautkr...
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Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 13:43
Grading comment
Thank you!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2Crown (bridal and maiden’s crown)
Yorkshireman
3 +2chaplet/headdress/headband/hair ornament
Ramey Rieger (X)
3 +1tiara
Lancashireman
Summary of reference entries provided
Google books reference
Alison MacG
Exhibition
Björn Vrooman

Discussion entries: 4





  

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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
tiara


Explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiara
http://www.ivoryandcotiaras.co.uk/
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brautkrone

I think Kröndl derives from Krone rather than Kranz

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:43
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 94

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nicole Schnell: Also agree with "Krone rather than Kranz".
23 hrs
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Crown (bridal and maiden’s crown)


Explanation:
This photo shows a typical bridal crown
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--pEtSz_QWZ8/US95w2yGdbI/AAAAAAAAKs...

from the Rhaetian Alps. I expect that it would be similar in Tyrol.

As "Kröndl" appears to be a typical Alpine diminutive, I would expect it to mean a "small crown", as shown in the photo..


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Note added at 27 mins (2014-08-15 15:29:15 GMT)
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Full-fledged Brautkronen can be enormous, like these from the Black Forest: http://ais.badische-zeitung.de/piece/03/97/38/08/60241928-w-...

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Note added at 1 hr (2014-08-15 17:00:53 GMT)
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Another article from the Black Forest:
http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.schwarzwaelder-trac...

Here's a Brautkrone from Northern Germany:
http://www.heimatmuseum-warnemuende.de/images/-006ac-Brautkr...

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 13:43
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 35
Grading comment
Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Inge Meinzer
2 hrs
  -> Thank you Inge.
agree  Helen Shiner: For the smaller sizes, yes, though when they are as massive as some you have linked to, I don't think 'crown' would really work anymore. Maybe 'headdress' would then be better. Depends on the region, as you have shown.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you Helen - they seem to vary very strongly from region to region, the ones in the extreme north and the Alps seem to be quite austere - possibly due to the relative poverty of those regions
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
chaplet/headdress/headband/hair ornament


Explanation:
There are several words for this kind of headdress. What sets it apart from a crown or tiara is that is holds the hair and usually doesn't cover or encircle the forehead.
I would choose hair ornament to be on the safe, ambiguous side, or simply leave it untranslated, in quotes, with an explanation

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 13:43
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Helen Shiner: bridal headdress might work the best, since they are so often so enormous (can you imagine the stiff neck?!)./I am supporting 'headdress' for both. I don't think it is bridesmaids, just traditional dress for girls/unmarried young women.
39 mins
  -> Thanks, Helen! the text refers to two types of headdress, brides and (bride's?) maids.
neutral  Yorkshireman: They look as if they could make kissing the bride a very risky business. Ebenso!
1 hr
  -> Some, yes, butsince there are at least two being referred to in the text, I'd stick to something more general. Have a good weekend, Y-Man!
agree  Trude Stegmann: With Helen. Looking at Alison's reference, I think its maids (unmarried young women) rather than bridesmaids.
1 day 5 hrs
  -> Yes, Trude. The source of the custom is probably hundreds of years old, when 'virgin' was simply an unmarried woman who expressed her 'availability at particular gathering by wearing this headdress.
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Google books reference

Reference information:
Tirol, Land und Natur: Volk und Geschichte, geistiges Leben
Deutscher Alpenverein (1874- ), Hans Bobek
F. Bruckmann, 1933 - History

Als Haarschmuck der Jungfrauen erscheint das „Kröndl", eine kronenförmige Haarzier aus Goldbändern, Gold- und Silberdraht, Kunstblumen und Edelsteinnachahmungen; in neuerer Zeit taucht es nur mehr selten bei Prozessionen auf; zumeist wird es bei solchen Gelegenheiten durch einen kränzartigen Streifen von weißen Kunstblumen und -blättern ersetzt.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=S74ZAAAAIAAJ&q="Kröndl" +...

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 70

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Yorkshireman: Sounds like a description of the first photo I posted
4 hrs
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1 day 18 hrs
Reference: Exhibition

Reference information:
Another reference for "Jungfrauenkrone" (yes, it's about unmarried women):
http://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/wien/stadtleben/8644...

"In Vorarlberg und Tirol, aber auch in anderen Teilen Mitteleuropas, wo von alters her Volkstrachten getragen werden, unterscheiden sich an kirchlichen Festtagen die unverheirateten Mädchen und Frauen von den verheirateten Frauen in ihrem Erscheinungsbild durch eine spezielle Kopfbedeckung. Während Letztere durch prächtige Hüte und Hauben ihren Ehestand respektive ihre Witwenschaft zum Ausdruck bringen, schmücken die Ledigen ihre Häupter in weitaus verspielterer Weise.

Diese Unterscheidung gibt es in manchen Gebieten schon seit dem Mittelalter, wie Wissenschafter herausgefunden haben. Im deutschsprachigen Raum hat die Kopfbedeckung für die unverheiratete Frau regional recht unterschiedliche Namen: Im Bregenzerwald heißt sie "Schappele", das Schwarzwälder Idiom dafür lautet "Schäppel", im Montafon gilt die Bezeichnung "Schappel", im Kleinen Walsertal gibt es dafür den Namen "Chränsle" und im Laternsertal tragen die Mädchen ein "Krönele".

In jedem Fall handelt es sich um eine spezielle Symbolik. Solche Jungfernkronen sollten - zumindest in früheren Zeiten - nach außen hin die Ehrbarkeit und Unberührtheit des Mädchens zum Ausdruck bringen."

Björn Vrooman
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
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