σκιώδης συμπεριφορά

English translation: rude / brutal behaviour

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Greek term or phrase:σκιώδης (σκαιώδης) συμπεριφορά
English translation:rude / brutal behaviour
Entered by: Dylan Edwards

18:20 Feb 4, 2013
Greek to English translations [Non-PRO]
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Greek term or phrase: σκιώδης συμπεριφορά
Επειδή οι λόγοι δια την τοιαύτη σκιώδη συμπεριφορά του εναγομένου είναι η υπέρμετρη ζηλοτυπία του εξ αιτίας του χρόνιου αλκοολισμού του και του βαναύσου χαρακτήρα του.

I don't have a clear idea of what σκιώδης means here other than just 'bad'. 'Shady' or 'shadowy' just doesn't fit the context.

Is this a correct use of σκιώδης? (I see that 'σκαιώδης συμπεριφορά' occasionally appears in Greek too).
Dylan Edwards
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:04
rude / brutal behaviour
Explanation:
Bad Greek. It can't be σκιώδης in this context. Σκαιώδης is ancient Greek for σκαιός.

http://www.greek-language.gr/greekLang/modern_greek/tools/le...

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Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:04
Grading comment
Thank you, Nick. "Brutal" was best in this particular context - a stronger word than "rude".
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3rude / brutal behaviour
Nick Lingris
4shadowy behaviour
transphy
4Questionable or unethical or abusive behaviour (depending on the full context)
Peter Close
3deplorable behaviour
Kyriacos Georghiou


Discussion entries: 18





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
σκιώδης συμπεριφορά > σκαιά / σκαιή συμπεριφορά
rude / brutal behaviour


Explanation:
Bad Greek. It can't be σκιώδης in this context. Σκαιώδης is ancient Greek for σκαιός.

http://www.greek-language.gr/greekLang/modern_greek/tools/le...



Nick Lingris
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek
PRO pts in category: 112
Grading comment
Thank you, Nick. "Brutal" was best in this particular context - a stronger word than "rude".

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Angeliki Papadopoulou
9 mins
  -> Thanks!

agree  sterios prosiniklis
12 hrs
  -> Thanks!

agree  Andras Mohay (X): Χωρίς σκιά αμφιβολίας
14 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
shadowy behaviour


Explanation:
What do you find unusual in using 'shadowy', as you said. Go ahead. It's OK!!

1. Professor sheds light on groundhog's**shadowy behavior**
www.bk.psu.edu/31377.htm - United States
Residents of Pennsylvania look to the groundhog each February 2 to forecast the weather. According to legend, if the groundhog sees his shadow, there will be ...
2. pinkmonkeybird: Report** shadowy behavior**
pinkmonkeybird.blogspot.com/2004/.../report-shadowy-behavior.ht...
Oct 28, 2004 – Report shadowy behavior. We have expected dirty political tactics from the Democrats as their desperation mounts. Hinderocket of Powerline ...

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3. Yall Politics | Honor Your Promise operator continues shadowy ...
yallpolitics.com/index.php/yp/post/31570/ - United States
Feb 23, 2012 – Honor Your Promise operator continues**shadowy behavior** - UPDATED x2. Can't someone just own up to it? By Frank Corder. Last week ...

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Google it, you will find plenty of evidence that it is used in English, too.


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4. Obama Calls Filmmaker a "Shadowy Character" - Katie Pavlich
townhall.com/.../09/.../obama_calls_filmmaker_a_shadowy_character
Sep 19, 2012 – Obama Calls Filmmaker a "Shadowy Character" - Katie Pavlich: President Obama took direct aim at the maker of the.
YOU CAN ALSO USE ****SHADY***, somebody who stays ''under the radar'' his behaviour is shadowy/shady.

transphy
Local time: 09:04
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GreekGreek
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deplorable behaviour


Explanation:
another suggestion

Kyriacos Georghiou
Cyprus
Local time: 11:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GreekGreek
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Questionable or unethical or abusive behaviour (depending on the full context)


Explanation:
http://el.glosbe.com/el/en/σκιώδης
gives σκιώδης to mean: shady or shadowy

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shady
gives shady to mean (amongst other interpretations): of dubious character or honesty; questionable

Babiniotis’s Greek dictionary gives one meaning of σκιώδης to be : χωρίς σθένος. The same dictionary gives σθένος to mean: σωματική, ψυχική ή/και ηθική δύναμη

From the following example, I would describe σκιώδης to mean:

http://www.star.gr/Pages/Ellada_Kosmos.aspx?art=154949&artTi...

Ακόμη και μετά από μια εβδομάδα εμφανίστηκε στο χθεσινό δελτίο του ΣΚΑΙ αμετανόητος για τη σκιώδη συμπεριφορά του και ακούστε πως τη δικαιολόγησε:


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The above should read:

From the following example, I would describe σκιώδης to mean: abusive

http://www.star.gr/Pages/Ellada_Kosmos.aspx?art=154949&artTi...

Ακόμη και μετά από μια εβδομάδα εμφανίστηκε στο χθεσινό δελτίο του ΣΚΑΙ αμετανόητος για τη σκιώδη συμπεριφορά του και ακούστε πως τη δικαιολόγησε:

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The following examples further clarify my answer:

http://www.pasok.gr/portal/resource/contentObject/id/7f20b0f...
Nov 4, 2012 – Οι πολεμικές επανορθώσεις και οι σκιώδης συμπεριφορά των συμμάχων καλλιέργησε τις προϋποθέσεις ανάπτυξης του Ναζισμού μεταξύ των ...

http://www.taxydromos.gr/article.php?id=38557&cat=712
Feb 1, 2012 – ... Στεφανοβικείου. Η επιστολή του Δημάρχου Κιλελέρ Ρίζου Κομήτσα με την οποία αποδοκιμάζεται ως «σκιώδης» η συμπεριφορά της Δημάρχου ...

http://logioshermes.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-post_8325.html...
Aug 10, 2012 – Όταν κάθε μέρα διαπιστώνεται ρε αδερφέ… από τον ίδιο τον λαό η κατά συρροή απαράδεκτη σκιώδης συμπεριφορά των πολιτικών, στους ...


Example sentence(s):
  • Ακόμη και μετά από μια εβδομάδα εμφανίστηκε στο χθεσινό δελτίο του ΣΚΑΙ αμετανόητος για τη σκιώδη συμπεριφορά του και ακούστε πως τη δικαι�

    Reference: http://el.glosbe.com/el/en/%CF%83%CE%BA%CE%B9%CF%8E%CE%B4%CE...
    Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shady
Peter Close
Local time: 11:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Peter. "Abusive" would work here.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andras Mohay (X): unethical = αήθης / abusive = καταχρηστική // σκιώδης is a barbarism for σκαιώδης, 'σκαιώδης συμπεριφορά' is a standard expression
47 mins
  -> Admittedly, but please tell me the name of a dictionary that describes σκιώδης to mean rude or brutal. When translating, one should interpret the intended meaning in the target language and not necessarily translate litterally.
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