Μετατροπές, Προνοητικά Ποσά, Ποσά Αρχικού Κόστους και Τιμές Αρχικού Κόστους

06:27 Nov 26, 2013 

Transphy: With respect, you are not the only person who has worked in the building trade in England, and, although you may have lived and worked in England for a good many years, English is not actually your true native language. My family has a long standing friend who was a Director of one of the largest building companies in England and he agrees that it is perfectly acceptable to describe sums that may need to be spent in the future as being “foreseeable costs” or ”foreseeable amounts”. Also, and again with respect, the words “foreseeable amounts” are likely to be more readily understood by a much greater number of people than the term “prime cost sums”, which is only likely to be understood by people professionally involved in the building trade in England. However, we have now both expressed our opinions, and we must leave it to the asker to decide how she wants to translate the words.

17:09 Nov 25, 2013 

You are not going to convince me, OR the Industry, to change the already adopted expression. 'Prime Cost Sums' are embedded deep in the Industry, and that's how people Know it. You might look up your dictionaries and, amongst the meaning of ' Προνοητικά' you will find 'pre-provided'. I am done!!

12:49 Nov 25, 2013 

A prime cost sum (sometimes called a PC sum) is an allowance usually calculated by the cost consultant for the supply of work or materials to be provided by a contractor or supplier that will be nominated by the client. However, the allowance is exclusive of any profit mark up or attendance (such as material handling, scaffolding and rubbish clearance etc) by the main contractor. See: http://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Prime_cost_sum & http://toolboxes.flexiblelearning.net.au/demosites/series10/... & http://constructionfield.net/prime-cost-sum/ The difference between “prime cost sums” and “foreseen amounts” is that foreseen amounts may include profit mark up and/or other costs. Since Katerina’s text does not clarify whether the costs in “Προνοητικά Ποσά” exclude profit mark up and/or other costs, it is safer to use the alternative term of “foreseen costs” in this case.

11:55 Nov 25, 2013 

“Prime costs” is not** only** a term used in the building industry...
The subject here IS Building Industry, specifically 'costs'.
The correct term, here, in this Industry is 'PRIME SUM costs'. That's how it is known.

07:49 Nov 25, 2013 

“Prime costs” is not only a term used in the building industry. It is a term used in all businesses to describe a business's expenses for the materials and labour it uses in production; see: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/prime-cost.asp & http://www.ask.com/question/what-is-a-prime-cost-in-accounti... & http://termsexplained.com/447829/prime-cost Foreseen amounts may not necessarily be prime costs, because foreseen amounts can include optional expenses as well as prime costs. Also, “foreseen amounts” are sums that are generally known in advance, whereas Prime Cost Items (PC’s) are items that either have not been selected or whose price is not known at the time the contract is entered into, and for which the cost of supply and delivery the builder has made allowance for in the contract price; see: http://hia.com.au/hia/content/Builder/region/National/classi... & http://www.bccbusinessmanagement.com.au/Prime_Cost_Items.php & http://www.mbav.com.au/vpLink.aspx?ID=8081#6 & http://www.rftsolutions.com.au/latest_home_builder_advice.ph...

21:25 Nov 24, 2013 

I had been in the building Industry for over 30 years and I'd like to take issue with 'Foreseen Amounts' as meaning 'Προνοητικά Ποσά', by stating the following. If the Amounts were 'foreseen' they would have been itemised and costed in the Bills of Quantity(BoQ). If they were not 'known' they would not be included in the BoQ, as the latter is the 'Bible' for costing a Project. Were there any 'UNforeseen' items or circumstances, then there is the item of 'Contingencies' that would cater for that eventuality. So 'foreseen amount' cannot and is not the right term. I am, as I said, taking issue with this term.
'Προνοϊτικά' από <προνοώ>= provide-foresee, in this case, even what makes sense is to say 'provide'. So, 'Προνοϊτικά' is something 'provided'. The English term for saying this in the Industry is, PRIME COST SUM(S) or PC SUM(S) for short, ως το εξήγησα στο παράδειγμα για 'Είδει Υγιεινής'.