mozgalmiság

English translation: movementism

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Hungarian term or phrase:mozgalmiság
English translation:movementism
Entered by: Tamas Nyeste

16:11 Jul 11, 2010
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Social Sciences - Government / Politics
Hungarian term or phrase: mozgalmiság
"A mozgalmiság sokrétű, tartalmilag és eszköztárában is sokféle formában jelenik meg."
Addig megvan, hogy a mozgalom: movement. De hogy movementism is lenne, az már legalábbis kétséges. Any ideas?
Tamas Nyeste
Local time: 04:48
movementism
Explanation:
Szerintem a movementből képzett movementism teljesen logikus és mind politikai, mind nyelvészeti szempontból elfogadható fogalom, csakúgy, mint magyar megfelelője, a mozgalomból képzett mozgalmiság. Hosszabban, mint beállítottság: Mentality of movementism, spirit of movementism.

Néhány példa:

"The moment is difficult; the same anti-fascist nature of our Republic, of our social life is not safe. And we have already said that movementism and extremism are not useful to the struggle for Socialism, nor even less to improve our conditions of daily life.

Just as the extremism of the social centers like the movementism are not useful, indeed, are negative and not educating.

Also Saturday, February 28, we saw the social centers to take to the streets in Bergamo as opposition to the demonstration of Forza Nuova. We say that the protest organized in this way, with political, cultural, movement and extremist elements, does not bring to actual convincing results, does not bring to increase really in Italy the anti-fascist movement."
http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0906/savio.htm

"This is not an accusation or denunciation on my part, nor would I want to argue that such regressions are inevitable: its just that this doesn’t seem to represent a new form of politics. Its a very old form of politics that boring Leninists like myself used to denounce as movementism. Now perhaps movementism was always right and revolutionaries were always wrong. But it has to be said that, from the mid-1960’s onwards, movementism was probably the main form of radical political activity, involving very similar kinds of problems and perspectives that we see today (of course not identical ones) and that, during this same period, revolutionaries were largely marginal or where not so marginal (Italy for example) went over to movementism themselves (the famous Lotta Continua debacle)."
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=589

"The mentality of movementism involves dedication to
what is held to be a holy cause under divinely-appointed
leadership, often narrowed down to one extremely gifted
man. The movement is born in the midst of severe opposition
and suffering but slowly gathers strength. All those who are
on the right track will give themselves wholly to the move-
ment in recognition of the rightness of the cause and the
God-given character of its leadership. As the movement pro-
gresses, a movementistic altitude..."
http://www.pcahistory.org/findingaids/rpces/history/07.pdf

"Third, the differences between Machen and McIntire should be viewed from the perspective of organizationism or movementism."
http://upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/submitted/etd-03232006-100913/u...
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5movement mindset, movement mentality
JANOS SAMU
4movementism
Ildiko Santana
3movement society
Annamaria Amik


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movement society


Explanation:
A tippet a következő bemutatóra alapozom:
http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/...
In an attempt to make sense of shifts in the social movement sector and its relationship to conventional politics over the past 40 years, some have proposed that Western nations are increasingly becoming “movement societies.” Accordingly, there are four key characteristics of the movement society: (1) over time expansion of protest; (2) over time diffusion of protest; (3) over time institutionalization of protest; and (4) over time institutionalization of state responses to protest.

Ez csak javaslat. Egyébként szerintem érthető lenne a movementism is, nem sokszor ugyan, de előfordul.

Annamaria Amik
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movement mindset, movement mentality


Explanation:
A két kifejezést ugyanolyan értelemben választhatóan használják.
Pl. One of the most difficult things about moving from an organizational mindset (focused on how to build an organization with controls and a chain of command) to a movement mindset (nurturing rapid reproduction of an idea or set of practices) is the seeming loss of control that takes place. vagy
The movement mentality, far from being defeated by organizational resistance, takes energy from opposition.

Az idézett mondatra javasolt megoldás (feltéve, hogy a sokrétű után nem vessző, hanem pontosvessző van): "A mozgalmiság sokrétű, tartalmilag és eszköztárában is sokféle formában jelenik meg."
The movement mentality manifests itself with (great) diversity using a good variety of tools and contents. A "great" nem volt a magyarban, de szerintem ez jó a sokrétűség kifejezésére.


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movementism


Explanation:
Szerintem a movementből képzett movementism teljesen logikus és mind politikai, mind nyelvészeti szempontból elfogadható fogalom, csakúgy, mint magyar megfelelője, a mozgalomból képzett mozgalmiság. Hosszabban, mint beállítottság: Mentality of movementism, spirit of movementism.

Néhány példa:

"The moment is difficult; the same anti-fascist nature of our Republic, of our social life is not safe. And we have already said that movementism and extremism are not useful to the struggle for Socialism, nor even less to improve our conditions of daily life.

Just as the extremism of the social centers like the movementism are not useful, indeed, are negative and not educating.

Also Saturday, February 28, we saw the social centers to take to the streets in Bergamo as opposition to the demonstration of Forza Nuova. We say that the protest organized in this way, with political, cultural, movement and extremist elements, does not bring to actual convincing results, does not bring to increase really in Italy the anti-fascist movement."
http://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc0906/savio.htm

"This is not an accusation or denunciation on my part, nor would I want to argue that such regressions are inevitable: its just that this doesn’t seem to represent a new form of politics. Its a very old form of politics that boring Leninists like myself used to denounce as movementism. Now perhaps movementism was always right and revolutionaries were always wrong. But it has to be said that, from the mid-1960’s onwards, movementism was probably the main form of radical political activity, involving very similar kinds of problems and perspectives that we see today (of course not identical ones) and that, during this same period, revolutionaries were largely marginal or where not so marginal (Italy for example) went over to movementism themselves (the famous Lotta Continua debacle)."
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=589

"The mentality of movementism involves dedication to
what is held to be a holy cause under divinely-appointed
leadership, often narrowed down to one extremely gifted
man. The movement is born in the midst of severe opposition
and suffering but slowly gathers strength. All those who are
on the right track will give themselves wholly to the move-
ment in recognition of the rightness of the cause and the
God-given character of its leadership. As the movement pro-
gresses, a movementistic altitude..."
http://www.pcahistory.org/findingaids/rpces/history/07.pdf

"Third, the differences between Machen and McIntire should be viewed from the perspective of organizationism or movementism."
http://upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/submitted/etd-03232006-100913/u...

Ildiko Santana
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Local time: 11:48
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Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian, Native in EnglishEnglish
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