legumi lessati

English translation: canned beans

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Italian term or phrase:legumi lessati
English translation:canned beans
Entered by: Raffaella Berry

22:18 Nov 26, 2012
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Cooking / Culinary / Economics report on consumer spending
Italian term or phrase: legumi lessati
Things like baked beans, but what is the generic term used in the retail trade "boiled legumes or pulses" just doesn't look right after "canned tomatoes, pasta, packaged rice,"
This is the paragraph:

Negli ultimi dodici mesi l’aggregato Lcc ha fatto registrare una variazione negativa dell'1,5%, lievemente meglio ha fatto l’insieme dei prodotti "basic", (dalla passata di pomodoro alla pasta secca, dal riso confezionato ai legumi lessati) che si è caratterizzato per una flessione inferiore al mezzo punto percentuale.

Just in case you were wondering LCC is largo consumo confezionato (not London County Council, bless its soul).
James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 01:40
canned beans
Explanation:
This is how they are normally called in grocery stores around the US.
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Raffaella Berry
Local time: 17:40
Grading comment
Thank you Raffaella.
However the points should really go to Bruna because I used her suggestion.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1canned beans
Raffaella Berry
4 +1processed legumes
Tony Shargool
4 +1boiled legumes
Michael Korovkin
3 +1tinned pulses
writeaway
4boiled beans
isa74
4boiled beans
Thomas Roberts
3cooked pulses (jars and cans)
Rachel Fell


Discussion entries: 7





  

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canned beans


Explanation:
This is how they are normally called in grocery stores around the US.

Raffaella Berry
Local time: 17:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you Raffaella.
However the points should really go to Bruna because I used her suggestion.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Would that include peas and lentils Raffaella?

Asker: Sounds just what the doctor ordered Bruna and it Googles. You should post it. I'd got as far as beans already.


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agree  texjax DDS PhD: "canned beans and legumes" About 221,000 results
11 mins
  -> thank you!
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
tinned pulses


Explanation:
or canned pulses if you need US English. as opposed to dried pulses

afaik

Dried/Tinned Pulses - Recipe Conversion - Page 1 - Ingredients ...
www.deliaonline.com/Community/forum.html?forum...5...
5 posts - 3 authors - 19 Nov 2011
Dried/Tinned Pulses - Recipe Conversion. I've been referring to my 1989 copy of Delia's Complete Cookery Course & all her recipes with ...

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Note added at 37 mins (2012-11-26 22:55:54 GMT)
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tinned cooked beans, cooked tinned veg?

writeaway
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Notes to answerer
Asker: Trouble is it is supposed to be in a style for "le famiglie". Delia knows just exactly what is and is not a pulse, but I'm scratching my head. Tinned beans Googles decently but pulses scores pretty low. Maybe I should try "tinned beans and similar".

Asker: Thanks writeaway


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agree  Maidiremai: I agree :D
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processed legumes


Explanation:
I am sure the 'family' comprising vegetables like chick-peas, lentils, beans, etc, is named < legumes >, just like 'legumi' in Italian. The packaged goods, (in glass pots, tins, tetrapack, etc. ) are probably more than simply boiled (lessati), hence processed -which probably accounts for any type of preserving. see 2nd link below.

see ref. below.


    Reference: http://www.pea-lentil.com/core/files/pealentil/uploads/files...
    Reference: http://www.ehow.com/how_6001073_preserve-legumes.html
Tony Shargool
Local time: 22:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Tony


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agree  Susy Sinigag (X)
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boiled beans


Explanation:
Some bean types include:chickpea,peas,lentil, etc..


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanhttp://
isa74
Local time: 22:40
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Isa

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boiled beans


Explanation:
Even though it may not sound natural, I think it is important to stick close to the original. After all, tinned beans could also include dried beans, which is something different from boiled beans.

http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_projects/2002/monitoring/fp_mo...

Thomas Roberts
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Tam seen note to Mike.

Asker: Thanks Tam

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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
boiled legumes


Explanation:
In my view that's exactly what that should be, though it may not "sound right" (???).
The trouble with the alternatives:
1) Unlike London County Council they are not necessarily canned: lots of them are now packaged in Tetrapack bricks and, lately – just in sealed recyclable plastic bags. Some of them are boiled and then frozen to boot, certainly not canned either.
2) not all of them are beans: there are all kinds of peas too... and I don't know what legume is lentil, except that apparently it's neither bean nor pea
3)Such handles as pre-cooked, ready-to-eat, etc., are no good for they may be baked, fried, stewed with other stuff, or dried or frozen fresh respectively.

So, sound awkward as it may, "boiled ligumes" seems to be the only safe answer.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2012-11-27 11:11:05 GMT)
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"cooked beans and peas" then!!! No pulses, though! That, in popular semantics, would bring us dangerously close to smoked/boiled pig shanks and the like (good with peas, btw!). If they ain't gonna sue... Otherwise, "thermically pre-treated leguminous foodstuffs" :).

I know about the LCC: that's why I said it was canned. So is the GLC is it not? Together with Ken Livingston? Recently I saw Boris Johnson -The Mayor, on David Letterman: loved him; ten temes weirder than Ken the Canned!

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Note added at 13 hrs (2012-11-27 11:42:12 GMT)
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Politics! Never crossed my mind! However, now that you mentioned it, I think you'right: better cease and desist. To paraphrase another politician, gentlemen let us keep to our... legumes!

Michael Korovkin
Italy
Local time: 22:40
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 22
Notes to answerer
Asker: @Michael and @Tam This client wants as broad a readership as possible. He wants an enjoyable easy read. The text contains very good references, so any seriously interested reader can follow them and find out exactly what the item does and does not include. It isn't a court document or even a contract. Nobody is going to get sued because it wan't specified that the legumes were boiled. It isn't a recipe. Tam go down the supermarket and ask: "Excuse me but can you tell me were I can find the boiled legumes, please?." BTW Mike, the LCC died in 1965, "canned and buried".

Asker: Any answer I might give to your recent comments Michael, would be a serious breach of Kudos rules which you have just broken. Best to keep politics on the sidelines, here, there are plenty of other forums. I just noticed the LCC abbreviation which I grew up with and remember fondly as a child too young for it to have any political meaning.

Asker: Thanks Michael


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MarcoNamor: I agree - why not - boiled legumes
7 days
  -> Thanks, Marco. I understand a possible objection to my solution:it sounds too bookish.Imagine,in a supermarket,say,in the US, u go:"Have any boiled legumes(instead of"got some canned beans?")!!! They'll think you are a domehead nerd from Alpha Centauri!!,
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cooked pulses (jars and cans)


Explanation:

http://www.productsfromspain.co.uk/pulses.htm

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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-11-27 19:46:32 GMT)
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or: canned and bottled pulses (and legumes)

see pp. 12 and 15
http://www.efsa.europa.eu/de/scdocs/doc/1414.pdf

Canned and bottled pulses, legumes, mushrooms and artichokes
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisr/1996/50/schedule/3/made

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Note added at 21 hrs (2012-11-27 19:47:52 GMT)
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I think the fact that they're "lessati" is understood rather than stated in English

Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 71
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Rachel

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