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parla a nuora anche perchè suocera intenda

English translation: kicking the dog and meaning the master

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Italian term or phrase:parla a nuora anche perchè suocera intenda
English translation:kicking the dog and meaning the master
Entered by: Teresa Avellino

16:49 Jan 21, 2014
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Journalism / parla a nuora anche perchè suocera intenda
Italian term or phrase: parla a nuora anche perchè suocera intenda
I know the general meaning (speaking to a third party so the others actually get the point) but I'm trying to think of whether there's a specific saying in English that would be best suited. - I'm having a mental block. Hope someone can help.
Teresa Avellino
United States
kicking the dog and meaning the master
Explanation:
Ho trovato questo.

Sappiamo molto bene che questo comportamento corrisponde al famoso detto “dire a nuora perché suocera intenda”, però non abbiamo purtroppo altre possibilità per esercitare pressioni.

europarl.europa.eu

We know full well that this is rather like kicking the dog and meaning the master, to quote an old proverb, but unfortunately we have no other means of exerting pressure.


europarl.europa.eu

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...
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texjax DDS PhD
Local time: 04:38
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Wonderful - thank you so much for your help!
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3 +5kicking the dog and meaning the master
texjax DDS PhD
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kicking the dog and meaning the master


Explanation:
Ho trovato questo.

Sappiamo molto bene che questo comportamento corrisponde al famoso detto “dire a nuora perché suocera intenda”, però non abbiamo purtroppo altre possibilità per esercitare pressioni.

europarl.europa.eu

We know full well that this is rather like kicking the dog and meaning the master, to quote an old proverb, but unfortunately we have no other means of exerting pressure.


europarl.europa.eu

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...


texjax DDS PhD
Local time: 04:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Wonderful - thank you so much for your help!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  P.L.F. Persio: sei straordinariamente brava (non che non lo sapessi già)...
1 hr
  -> I'll take it as a compliment... :D Non lo merito ma grazie comunque, sei sempre troppo gentile!
agree  Dr Lofthouse
1 hr
  -> Thanks
agree  philgoddard: I'd never heard of this either, but it fits perfectly.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks a lot Phil
agree  EleoE
3 hrs
  -> Grazie
agree  Wendy Streitparth
3 hrs
  -> Many thanks
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Context

Reference information:
Gerusalemme.Tempo di riscossa: i Paesi dell'Unione Europea convocano gli ambasciatori israeliani per protestare contro le costruzioni nei territori? E Israele convoca gli ambasciatori di Roma, Londra, Parigi e Madrid per protestare contro il loro l'atteggiamento squilibrato sempre a favore dei Palestinesi.

L'amaro calice delle guide lines della signora Ashton e la convocazione dei suoi ambasciatori alla fine sono risultate inaccettabili per Israele, un'intromissione in un momento delicato dei colloqui di pace. E forse la convocazione israeliana è un avvertimento all'Europa a non farsi strumento di Kerry per spingere a concessioni obbligatorie. **Israele forse parla a nuora anche perchè suocera intend**. Così anche l'ambasciatore italiano Francesco Talò, che ha rapporti cordiali con Israele, ha subito nell'ambito del gruppo convocato dal ministero degli esteri l'accusa di prendere sempre la parte dei palestinesi.


    Reference: http://www.lsblog.it/index.php/esteri/1488-netanyahu-perde-l...
philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 16
Note to reference poster
Asker: I didn't want to post this in case it wasn't legit for me to do so, but I guess it should be fine. :)


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  P.L.F. Persio: another version is "parlare a Sparta perché Atene intenda."
13 mins
agree  texjax DDS PhD: nice
3 hrs
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