per portare un portato dichiarativo

English translation: to provide an outcome with the value of a statement

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Italian term or phrase:	per portare un portato dichiarativo
English translation:	to provide an outcome with the value of a statement
Entered by:	Michael Meskers

01:30 May 23, 2019

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / From a hearing transcript

Italian term or phrase: per portare un portato dichiarativo

Hi all -

I am translating a hearing transcript from a court in Italy.

I am wondering how best to translate this phrase:
per portare un portato dichiarativo

as it appears in the following context:

...in aiuto alla memoria non è una possibilità di leggere dei documenti per portare un portato dichiarativo, ma è un qualcosa che sopraggiunge nel momento in cui il testimone non è in grado di riferire determinati dati. Quindi chiedo al Tribunale che non venga data una autorizzazione in bianco al dottor Lagro a leggere gli elementi da lui scritti a suo tempo, ma questa autorizzazione sopraggiunga nel caso in cui lui abbia un vuoto di memoria e quindi in quel caso in aiuto a questa eventuale memoria...

Thanks for any help offered!

Michael Meskers KudoZ activity Questions: 550 (8 open) (23 without valid answers) (40 closed without grading) Answers: 5 United States
Local time: 06:05

to provide an outcome with the value of a statement

Explanation:
This is the best I can do (so early in the morning in Europe); however, your text only reconfirms my opinion on how badly Italian lawyers use the Italian Language!

Selected response from:

Alison Kennedy
Italy
Local time: 12:05

Grading comment

Thanks Alison!
Michael
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +1

to provide an outcome with the value of a statement

Alison Kennedy

it is not possible to make a statement by reading out from documents

Tom in London

so as to add some declaratory value (as admissions)

Adrian MM.

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

3 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

to provide an outcome with the value of a statement

Explanation:
This is the best I can do (so early in the morning in Europe); however, your text only reconfirms my opinion on how badly Italian lawyers use the Italian Language!

Alison Kennedy
Italy
Local time: 12:05
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 320

Grading comment

Thanks Alison!
Michael

8 hrs confidence:

so as to add some declaratory value (as admissions)

Explanation:
I think or guess that this is what the venerable Italian lawyer is trying to say, namley read the case papers and adduce/ extrapolate - 'eke or tease out' - a measure of evidentiary or evidential force.

Alas, depositional force means something else in geology.

Reference: http://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/22147445-porta...
Reference: http://context.reverso.net/traduzione/inglese-italiano/decla...

Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 128

8 hrs confidence:

it is not possible to make a statement by reading out from documents

Explanation:
I think this is what the poor chap (or chapess) is trying to say, but trying to make it sound "official like".

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Note added at 8 hrs (2019-05-23 10:17:19 GMT)
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i.e. documents prepared earlier (as your text goes on to say)

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:05
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 301

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