PULSIONE DI MORTE

English translation: death drive

11:43 Dec 29, 2020
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / pulsione
Italian term or phrase: PULSIONE DI MORTE
Buongiorno ragazzi,
sto traducendo un testo di psicoanalisi dall'italiano all'inglese e non sono convinta della traduzione del termine PULSIONE con DRIVE. In particolare, il termine utilizzato da Freud,TRIEB (PULSIONE in tedesco), non prevede che ci sia una conduzione, mentre inglese DRIVE sembra rimandare a un conducente che invece non c'è. I termini IMPULSE e INSTINCT non vanno bene in quanto non descrivono la pulsione freudiana.
Rimango in attesa di un gentile riscontro.
Grazie mille e auguri!
Irene Fumagalli
English translation:death drive
Explanation:
"In classical Freudian psychoanalytic theory, the death drive (German: Todestrieb) is the drive toward death and destruction, often expressed through behaviors such as aggression, repetition compulsion, and self-destructiveness.[1][2] It was originally proposed by Sabina Spielrein in her paper "Destruction as the Cause of Coming Into Being"[3][4] (Die Destruktion als Ursache des Werdens)[5] in 1912, which was then taken up by Sigmund Freud in 1920 in Beyond the Pleasure Principle. This concept has been translated as "opposition between the ego or death instincts and the sexual or life instincts".[6] In Pleasure Principle, Freud used the plural "death drives" (Todestriebe) much more frequently than in the singular."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive
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Fiona Grace Peterson
Italy
Local time: 01:20
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Thanks, I'll use this one, drive. I was hoping to find something closer to PULSIONE but this is the word that's always been used in the English translation, so I'll just stick to it.
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4 +3death drive
Fiona Grace Peterson
4 +1death wish
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death wish


Explanation:
I think this is the most natural sounding.

death wish – APA Dictionary of Psychologydictionary.apa.org › death-wish
2. in psychoanalytic theory, a conscious or unconscious wish that another person, particularly a parent, will die. According to Sigmund Freud, such wishes are a ...


Isabelle Johnson
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Asker: Thanks everyone! And a Happy New Year of course! I think I'll use DRIVE this time, but your help has been equally precious! Cheers, I.


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agree  Perla Colzi
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49 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
death drive


Explanation:
"In classical Freudian psychoanalytic theory, the death drive (German: Todestrieb) is the drive toward death and destruction, often expressed through behaviors such as aggression, repetition compulsion, and self-destructiveness.[1][2] It was originally proposed by Sabina Spielrein in her paper "Destruction as the Cause of Coming Into Being"[3][4] (Die Destruktion als Ursache des Werdens)[5] in 1912, which was then taken up by Sigmund Freud in 1920 in Beyond the Pleasure Principle. This concept has been translated as "opposition between the ego or death instincts and the sexual or life instincts".[6] In Pleasure Principle, Freud used the plural "death drives" (Todestriebe) much more frequently than in the singular."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive

Fiona Grace Peterson
Italy
Local time: 01:20
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks, I'll use this one, drive. I was hoping to find something closer to PULSIONE but this is the word that's always been used in the English translation, so I'll just stick to it.

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agree  martini
59 mins

agree  Isabella Nanni
2 hrs

agree  Kate Chaffer
4 hrs
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