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ad alta apertura logica

English translation: with an extremely open logic

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Italian term or phrase:ad alta apertura logica
English translation:with an extremely open logic
Entered by: Peter Waymel

13:59 Jan 22, 2013
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Science (general) / neuroscience, theory of knowledge
Italian term or phrase: ad alta apertura logica
La computazione di Turing, il modello del computer digitale, è astratta ed incorporea, mentre la computazione naturale (informazione biologica) considera l’elaborazione dell’informazione un processo strettamente connesso alla struttura fisica del sistema che computa. In questi sistemi ***ad alta apertura logica*** compare un dominio cognitivo, ossia la capacità di produrre e gestire informazione in modo autonomo e generalmente irriducibile ad un singolo modello formale (emergenza semantica).

"In these systems of an extensive logical openness/aperture, a cognitive domain appears, i.e., the ability to produce and manage information in an autonomous way and generally one that is irreducible to a single formal model (semantic emergence)."

I'm quite unsure of how to render it; I don't even have the concept clear. I suppose he's referring to an openness on the part of the subject, or entity, or even the natural world (the context is a dissertation on consciousness, from within the field of neuroscience), to receiving a large amount of data (though that doesn't explain the 'logica' - some more complex rendering would be necessary to translate the term/phrase). "Wide logical openness"? Extensive logical aperture?

I'll have to ask the author but in the meantime, does anyone understand this and have an idea for a better translation?

Thanks,

Peter
Peter Waymel
Italy
Local time: 06:44
with an extremely open logic
Explanation:
The "Turing machine" is a logically very simple and closed system, except that is has an infinite set of instructions, which makes it a general problem solver. The hypothesis put forward here is that logic of biological cognitive mechanisms is a much more open (andnecessarily more complex) system of logic. Personally I doubt that.
I learnt of the Turing Machine in psychology lectures on artificial intelligence and cybernetics in the 1970s.

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Sorry Hi Peter.

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The idea of "open logic" here suggests a large number of different models of reasoning. Which I suppose is plausible. One of the first and famous cognitive models proposed was the idea that rats held images of maps in their brains to enable them to run mazes (Tolman 1930).
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James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 08:44
Grading comment
Hi Jim. Yes, this sounds good. Thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
4with their much fuzzier logic
philgoddard
4open to any process amenable to logic
Pompeo Lattanzi
4with an extremely open logic
James (Jim) Davis


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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
with their much fuzzier logic


Explanation:
I agree with Jim's explanation, but I'm not sure if "open" conveys a clear idea, and I wonder if this would be a better way of putting it.

"Fuzzy logic is a form of many-valued logic or probabilistic logic; it deals with reasoning that is approximate rather than fixed and exact. Compared to traditional binary sets (where variables may take on true or false values) fuzzy logic variables may have a truth value that ranges in degree between 0 and 1."


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic
philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 5

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  James (Jim) Davis: You are over interpreting. Open logic is not necessarily fuzzy and not a precise term, while fuzzy logic is (it is probabilistic logic). If the author meant fuzzy logic he would have written "logica fuzzy". I am seeing 2+2=3 here Phil. I studied this stuf
37 mins
  -> I think your answer is less than perfect, but I wouldn't dream of disagreeing with it.
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57 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
open to any process amenable to logic


Explanation:
By way of explanation too.

Pompeo Lattanzi
Italy
Local time: 06:44
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
with an extremely open logic


Explanation:
The "Turing machine" is a logically very simple and closed system, except that is has an infinite set of instructions, which makes it a general problem solver. The hypothesis put forward here is that logic of biological cognitive mechanisms is a much more open (andnecessarily more complex) system of logic. Personally I doubt that.
I learnt of the Turing Machine in psychology lectures on artificial intelligence and cybernetics in the 1970s.

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Note added at 12 mins (2013-01-22 14:12:39 GMT)
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Sorry Hi Peter.

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Note added at 1 hr (2013-01-22 15:39:26 GMT)
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The idea of "open logic" here suggests a large number of different models of reasoning. Which I suppose is plausible. One of the first and famous cognitive models proposed was the idea that rats held images of maps in their brains to enable them to run mazes (Tolman 1930).

James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 08:44
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Hi Jim. Yes, this sounds good. Thanks!
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