Figlio affiliato

English translation: Related child

16:00 May 8, 2007
Italian to English translations [PRO]
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Italian term or phrase: Figlio affiliato
What is the difference between figlio adottato and figlio affliato?
Sudha Mundhra Binani (X)
Local time: 04:58
English translation:Related child
Explanation:
Adopted vs. step
I have a daughter who is really my husbands daughter from his previous marriage.
She is my step-daughter , she is affiliated ,she is "related" to me( in insurance and legal terms) as she is part of my household, but she is not my adoptive daughter.

In order to adopt a child, one needs to have the biological parent renounce his/her rights to said child in a Court of Law proceeding.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-05-08 20:32:20 GMT)
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ok let's cut the chase
Adopt = legal guardianship is assumed for life

Foster = temporary Custody/guardianship until child is placed in an "adoptive" home

Relation= child who can be claimed as a "dependent" in someone's income taxes, for whom over 50% of room and board is provided by the taxpayer, who lives in the household for more than 6 months a year. A related child can then be, as you see either of the above - fostered, adopted or as, in my case, a stepchild.

Again., for insurance purposes and I am stricktly talking about the US here, a "related" child is as explained above.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-05-08 20:35:46 GMT)
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Just one more thing, more text always always helps I know that you are relatively new to PROZ; everyone here really wants to help but in order to give you the best possible answer we must have enough context to go on.
I hope that one of the three situations explained above fits your context best. Ciao!
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Rosanna Palermo
Local time: 08:58
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Summary of answers provided
4Related child
Rosanna Palermo
4 -1foster child
irenef
3unofficial foster arrangement
potra


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Related child


Explanation:
Adopted vs. step
I have a daughter who is really my husbands daughter from his previous marriage.
She is my step-daughter , she is affiliated ,she is "related" to me( in insurance and legal terms) as she is part of my household, but she is not my adoptive daughter.

In order to adopt a child, one needs to have the biological parent renounce his/her rights to said child in a Court of Law proceeding.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-05-08 20:32:20 GMT)
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ok let's cut the chase
Adopt = legal guardianship is assumed for life

Foster = temporary Custody/guardianship until child is placed in an "adoptive" home

Relation= child who can be claimed as a "dependent" in someone's income taxes, for whom over 50% of room and board is provided by the taxpayer, who lives in the household for more than 6 months a year. A related child can then be, as you see either of the above - fostered, adopted or as, in my case, a stepchild.

Again., for insurance purposes and I am stricktly talking about the US here, a "related" child is as explained above.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-05-08 20:35:46 GMT)
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Just one more thing, more text always always helps I know that you are relatively new to PROZ; everyone here really wants to help but in order to give you the best possible answer we must have enough context to go on.
I hope that one of the three situations explained above fits your context best. Ciao!

Rosanna Palermo
Local time: 08:58
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 25
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Thanks to all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Linda 969: hi rfmoon - I doubt *related* is specific enough, see Silvia's explanation above
2 hrs
  -> For Isurability purposes, at least in the US you have to prove "'Relation", that is the Exact wording used. Also, said person has to live with you 6+/mo/year

neutral  gvag: NB: FOSTER stands specifically for "in affido"; (100% confidence). Different forms of "affido" exist: affido preadottivo is only one of them. Main other form is affido familiare, where child remains in contact with and should ev. return to nat. parent
5 hrs
  -> I thought I said that..??
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foster child


Explanation:
as opposed to "adopted child"

online references
verb:
to take care of a child, usually for a limited time, without being the child's legal parent
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=30743&dict=CA...
adj.
1. Providing parental care and nurture to children not related through legal or blood ties: foster parents; foster grandparents; a foster home.
2. Receiving parental care and nurture from those not related to one through legal or blood ties: foster children.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/foster

HTH
irene

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-05-08 17:44:09 GMT)
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verb
"to take someone else's child into your family for a period of time but without becoming their legal parent"
Longman

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Note added at 6 hrs (2007-05-08 22:24:58 GMT)
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"Affiliare" means having parental authority over a child without actually adopting her.

IMO, the closest thing to this concept is "foster" or "long-term foster care".

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Note added at 16 hrs (2007-05-09 08:31:18 GMT)
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I thought I'd give more references to justify my suggestion.

"presenza dell’istituto giuridico dell’affiliazione sorto nel 1939 con lo scopo di assicurare mano d’opera gratuita soprattutto ai contadini senza prole"
http://www.anfaa.it/boll_9803b.htm

"La giurisprudenza sull’affido senza termine e sull’art. 44/d legge 184/83
I Tribunali per i Minorenni hanno fatto ampia applicazione di tale norma che fortunatamente è rimasta, dopo che il legislatore (con la legge n. 184/1983) con decisione ideologica semplificatrice, ha abrogato l’istituto dell’affiliazione che aveva il pregio di regolare giuridicamente situazioni di AFFIDO DI FATTO a lunga durata. "
http://www.cameraminorilemilano.it/writable/INTERVENTO DR CE...


irenef
Local time: 14:58
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Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Linda 969: hi irene - foster >in affido (I think)
1 hr
  -> hi Linda. This seems to be the closest thing to "affiliato", a concept which has now been superseded by new adoption and foster laws ;-))

disagree  gvag: Foster is specific and does not seem appropriate here. See rfmoon entry and my comment thereto for details.
4 hrs
  -> hi gvag. Thanks for your elucidations. You are undoubtedly right about affidamento. However, "affidamento" is a concept that did not exist many years back. Do you know exactly what "affiliazione" is?
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unofficial foster arrangement


Explanation:
Figlio affiliato: e' una pratica che differisce rispetto all'adozione per gli effetti legali. L'affiliato e' un bambino che viene preso a far parte di una famiglia che lo segue e lo tutela non ufficialmente, cioe' senza alcuna documentazione legale e senza adottarlo legalmente. Questa pratica era molto piu' comune nell'Italia pre-ricorsi, quando i ricorsi legali civili erano praticamente sconosciuti al cittadino comune.

potra
United States
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