help with sentence, please

English translation: but implies a constructive and energetic approach to a personal and common good...

06:41 Sep 17, 2008
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Italian term or phrase: help with sentence, please
Nei documenti di impostazione politica del governo lombardo , libertà e responsabilità sono ritenute condizioni necessarie e indisgiungibili dell’applicazione della sussidiarietà e riguardano sia il lato dell’offerta dei servizi, sia il lato della domanda.
Sono condizioni necessarie perché senza di esse non si ha l’azione autonoma di un soggetto (personale, relazionale o istituzionale) e sono indisgiungibili perché la libertà cui si fa riferimento, come sopra richiamato, non è fine a se stessa, ma **implica in origine l’energia e la prospettiva costruttiva in funzione di un bene per sé e comune.**

mamma mia ... non riesco proprio a coglierne il senso (solo la parte tra **)- per favore, aiutatemi a capire e tradurre, GRAZIE
Natascha Spinetto
Italy
Local time: 08:33
English translation:but implies a constructive and energetic approach to a personal and common good...
Explanation:
right from the outset.
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James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 11:33
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Thanks again, James (Jim)!
... and thanks to all the others, too
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4but implies a constructive and energetic approach to a personal and common good...
James (Jim) Davis
4implies from the very outset an impetus and constructive outlook geared towards
manducci
3it entails right from the start/at the very beginning, a powerful drive and constructive project...
Raffaella Panigada
3implies, in origin, an initial energy and a constructive outlook, in the sense of doing good to itse
Tom in London
2originally implies the energy and the constructive prospective
savaria (X)


  

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it entails right from the start/at the very beginning, a powerful drive and constructive project...


Explanation:
...aimed towards both the individual and common good "

Spero ti dia uno spunto. Ciao

Raffaella Panigada
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implica in origine l’energia e la prospettiva costruttiva in funzione di un bene per sé e comune
originally implies the energy and the constructive prospective


Explanation:
subordinated to the use for himself and for the community.


O qualcosa del genere.Ma questo mi sembra di essere troppo lunga per un solo KudoZ domanda.

savaria (X)
Hungary
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but implies a constructive and energetic approach to a personal and common good...


Explanation:
right from the outset.


James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 11:33
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 129
Grading comment
Thanks again, James (Jim)!
... and thanks to all the others, too

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Valentina Diani
15 mins

agree  Shera Lyn Parpia
20 mins

agree  manducci: Sorry, your answer wasn't there when I started mine ...You beat me to it (on 'outset')
1 hr

agree  Raffaella Panigada: :-)
3 hrs
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implies from the very outset an impetus and constructive outlook geared towards


Explanation:
both the individual and common good.

manducci
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**implica in origine l’energia e la prospettiva costruttiva in funzione di un bene per sé e comune.*
implies, in origin, an initial energy and a constructive outlook, in the sense of doing good to itse


Explanation:
this is an example of that deliberately convoluted and largely meaningless Italian that is not intended to be understood but to mystify and obfuscate. In translating it I would try to retain its dreadful style ....taking a perverse pleasure in translating exactly what was given to me to translate, and doing it well :)

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-09-17 08:59:06 GMT)
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...itself and the collectivity

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:33
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PRO pts in category: 53
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Asker: :-) Thanks Tom in London - I've got 60 pages of this stuff and almost wish I hadn't accepted this job!

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