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二ホ

English translation: …, Item (e) of appended table 2 (, which is listed in the public notice No. 547 in 1979)

22:21 May 21, 2010
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Japanese term or phrase: 二ホ
港則法：法第２１条２、則第１２条、昭和５４告示５４７別表二ホ

I can't find the referenced table so I don't know what's going on here. Is this double-character iroha or is the 二 a 2? If it's iroha would you use DE (or de)?
Steven Smith
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:21
English translation:…, Item (e) of appended table 2 (, which is listed in the public notice No. 547 in 1979)
Explanation:
I think “二” is (No.) 2, and “ホ” is e (E as in Edward) in the Iroha (traditional ordering of the Japanese syllabary) order. For your information, ニ is Katakana, and 二 is the numeric character (2) in Kanji.　And, the letter you have specified there is 二, which is obviously 2.
以下参照：
① 　一　別表第二中欄に掲げる貨物の同表下欄に掲げる地域を仕向地とする輸出
(i) Export of goods listed in the middle column of appended table 2 to the regions listed in the lower column of the same table;　
②　ホ　無償で輸出すべきものとして無償で輸入した貨物であって、経済産業大臣が告示で定めるもの
(e) Goods imported without charge for the purpose of export without charge, which are specified by the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry in public notice:
〔　以上、輸出貿易管理令　Export Trade Control Orderより抜粋　〕

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2010-05-23 03:53:25 GMT)
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◇　追記：　　
Or, it can be as follows:
Appended table No.2 (e) [of the public notice No. 547 in 1979]
For the distinction between 二 (2) and ニ (ni), take a look at a slight difference in form (esp. in size) between them on your computer screen. It is advisable to type them each from the keyboard and see how they differ.
　　ホ　一般職給与法別表第四ロ公安職俸給表（二）～
　(e) … the Public Security Service (II) Salary Schedule in Appended Table No. 4 (b) of the Regular Service Remuneration Act
　〔　国家公務員倫理法 　National Public Service Ethics Actより抜粋　
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Katsushi Saito
Japan
Local time: 09:21
Grading comment
Thanks. I must learn to recognize the difference!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1…, Item (e) of appended table 2 (, which is listed in the public notice No. 547 in 1979)
Katsushi Saito
3 +1d, e
cinefil
3別表二と別表ホ
izziS


  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
別表二と別表ホ


Explanation:
Perhaps, there are figure named 二 and figure named ホ?

In old Japanese alphabetical order, 二 immediately leads ホ


    Reference: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%84%E3%82%8D%E3%81%AF%E6%...
izziS
United States
Local time: 19:21
Native speaker of: Japanese
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
d, e


Explanation:
イロハニホ sequence > Iroha order ('iroha jyun')
(KudoZ) 日本語 から 英語 translation of イ, ロ, ハ, ニ, ホ: Iroha order ('iroha jyun') [その他]. ... 日本語から英語への翻訳 [PRO] .... I gave the examples of (i ), (ii) etc., which would fit neatly here, but you can use a, b, c, ...
jpn.proz.com/kudoz/japanese_to.../458284-イ_ロ_ハ_ニ_ホ.html - キャッシュ

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Note added at 10 hrs (2010-05-22 09:12:56 GMT)
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I searched 昭和５４告示５４７別表二ホ, and now believe that ニ is 漢数字 of 2.
漢数字の二とカタカナのニは、良く似ています。
http://www.yuki-gosei.co.jp/products/pdf/JPMSDS-5034.pdf
So, 別表ニホ：item e, appendix 2

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Note added at 11 hrs (2010-05-22 09:32:01 GMT)
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別表 might be 'appended table'
http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/law/detail/?ft=2&re=...[]=し&ky=&page=26

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2010-05-23 03:10:35 GMT)
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another possibility of ホ: article (e)

cinefil
Japan
Local time: 09:21
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
PRO pts in category: 75
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks. So you think these would be two separate tables rather than a single one? The lack of a comma made me think it was one table strangely numbered.

Asker: Thanks. I know you mentioned it might be '2' before Saito-san, but his answer convinced me.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Yumico Tanaka (X)
1 hr
  -> ありがとうございます。川上哲治ですか、監督時代ですよね？
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
…, Item (e) of appended table 2 (, which is listed in the public notice No. 547 in 1979)


Explanation:
I think “二” is (No.) 2, and “ホ” is e (E as in Edward) in the Iroha (traditional ordering of the Japanese syllabary) order. For your information, ニ is Katakana, and 二 is the numeric character (2) in Kanji.　And, the letter you have specified there is 二, which is obviously 2.
以下参照：
① 　一　別表第二中欄に掲げる貨物の同表下欄に掲げる地域を仕向地とする輸出
(i) Export of goods listed in the middle column of appended table 2 to the regions listed in the lower column of the same table;　
②　ホ　無償で輸出すべきものとして無償で輸入した貨物であって、経済産業大臣が告示で定めるもの
(e) Goods imported without charge for the purpose of export without charge, which are specified by the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry in public notice:
〔　以上、輸出貿易管理令　Export Trade Control Orderより抜粋　〕

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2010-05-23 03:53:25 GMT)
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◇　追記：　　
Or, it can be as follows:
Appended table No.2 (e) [of the public notice No. 547 in 1979]
For the distinction between 二 (2) and ニ (ni), take a look at a slight difference in form (esp. in size) between them on your computer screen. It is advisable to type them each from the keyboard and see how they differ.
　　ホ　一般職給与法別表第四ロ公安職俸給表（二）～
　(e) … the Public Security Service (II) Salary Schedule in Appended Table No. 4 (b) of the Regular Service Remuneration Act
　〔　国家公務員倫理法 　National Public Service Ethics Actより抜粋　


Katsushi Saito
Japan
Local time: 09:21
Native speaker of: Japanese
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
Thanks. I must learn to recognize the difference!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Joyce A: The “二” vs “ニ” visuals were nagging me somewhere in the back corners of my mind….I think this has cleared it up. :-)
12 hrs
  -> Thanks a lot!
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