「もうX日とは」+「お出でになりはしない」

English translation: you won't even be here for (another) five days (so what does it matter?)

18:00 Sep 26, 2016
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / 近代文学
Japanese term or phrase: 「もうX日とは」+「お出でになりはしない」
I'm putting my last touches on a translation of 鈴木三重吉's short story 「たそがれ」, and there's one part that I just can't seem to parse. The narrator is talking to a lover who will be leaving her soon, and asks why he hasn't told her anything about leaving yet. She follows up the question with,

「どちらにしてももう五日とはここにはお出でになりはしないでしょう?」

I'm fairly sure she's said it doesn't matter because he won't be here in five days...

Oor is she saying he won't be by the fifth?
Or maybe is she saying he will only have been there five days (once he's gone)?

I feel like it'd be obvious what the answer is to someone of better Japanese ability than me, but the double meaning of 五日 and the triple meaning of お出でになる (plus the ~はしない form I've never gotten a good grasp on) are all leaving me uncertain.
Barry Wolfenden
Canada
English translation:you won't even be here for (another) five days (so what does it matter?)
Explanation:
For this use of もう see http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/もう

もう(あと)5 日
another five days
five more days
five days more

See also this link for an answer to the same question:
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q101...

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Note added at 15 hrs (2016-09-27 09:49:20 GMT)
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You could rewrite this for example as "You'll be gone within five days anyway" or something similar.
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Julian Rippon
Local time: 02:49
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4 +2you won't even be here for (another) five days (so what does it matter?)
Julian Rippon
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数詞+とは+動詞の否定形=数詞も+動詞の否定形
Port City

  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
you won't even be here for (another) five days (so what does it matter?)


Explanation:
For this use of もう see http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/もう

もう(あと)5 日
another five days
five more days
five days more

See also this link for an answer to the same question:
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q101...

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Note added at 15 hrs (2016-09-27 09:49:20 GMT)
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You could rewrite this for example as "You'll be gone within five days anyway" or something similar.


    Reference: http://ejje.weblio.jp/content/%E3%82%82%E3%81%86
    Reference: http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q101...
Julian Rippon
Local time: 02:49
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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Thank you so much for your answer.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Port City
4 hrs
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agree  Yasutomo Kanazawa
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7 hrs
Reference: 数詞+とは+動詞の否定形=数詞も+動詞の否定形

Reference information:
http://ejje.weblio.jp/sentence/content/時間はかからない
(See the first example.)
ここから上野まで 1 時間とはかからない.
It takes less than [does not take] an hour to go to Ueno from here.

Port City
New Zealand
Native speaker of: Native in JapaneseJapanese
PRO pts in category: 12
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