25M3コースと25M6コースの2面のプール

English translation: a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool

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Japanese term or phrase:25M3コースと25M6コースの2面のプール
English translation:a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool
Entered by: jsl (X)

15:52 Jan 17, 2005
Japanese to English translations [PRO]
Sports / Fitness / Recreation / swimming, sports club
Japanese term or phrase: 25M3コースと25M6コースの2面のプール
Description of facilities in a sports club; what is the proper way to word this in English? I presume the "M" is meters. Thanks in advance.
Shannon Morales
United States
Local time: 11:02
a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool
Explanation:
a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool

It seems that an expression like "x-lane y-meter pool" is used widely.

Using "y-meter pool with x lanes", "a 25-meter pool with 3 lanes and a 25-meter pool with 6 lanes" is also possible.


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Note added at 2005-01-17 17:18:55 (GMT)
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Instead of ¥"25-meter¥", using ¥"25m¥" seems to be poplular, too.

http://www.google.com/search?q="lane 25m pool"


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Note added at 2005-01-17 17:33:13 (GMT)
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In Google:

523 examples of ¥"... lane 25-meter pool¥"
106 examples of ¥"... lane 25-meter swimming pool¥"

http://www.google.com/search?q="lane 25-meter swimming pool"

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Note added at 2005-01-18 15:44:35 (GMT) Post-grading
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I think that saying ¥"two pools with 3 25-meter lanes and 6 25-meter lanes¥" may be confusing, although the Japanese expression looks like this. Since my rendition includes two noun phrases connected with ¥"and¥" (i.e., ¥"a ... Noun and a ... Noun¥"), it refers to the expression in Japanese.

For clarification, in ¥"25M3コースと25M6コースの2面のプール¥", both ¥"25M3コース¥" and ¥"25M6コースの¥" modifies ¥"プール¥", and, furthermore, ¥"2面の¥" also modifies ¥"プール¥". So, the quantifier ¥"2面の¥" cannot modify ¥"25M6コースの¥" backwards. If you want the quantifier ¥"2面¥" to modify ¥"25M6コース¥", the expression has to be ¥"25M6コース2面のプール¥". Since ¥"25M6コース¥" and ¥"2面¥" are connected without a conjunct, ¥"2面¥" in this case modifies ¥"25M6コース¥", and, furthermore, the whole ¥"¥"25M6コース2面の¥" modiflies ¥"プール¥", which means ¥"two 25-meter 6-lane pools¥".
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jsl (X)
Local time: 01:02
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Thanks, Daisuke. I can't find how to add a note to my question w/o grading it, so I'll go on and award the points to Daisuke, but I wanted to ask if this definitely means 2 separate pools? Is "men" the counting unit for pools in Jpns? Are we sure it's not one pool divided down the middle or something?? Just checking...
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5 +3a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool
jsl (X)
3Two pools: 25m/3-lane and 25m/6-lane
Kurt Hammond


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a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool


Explanation:
a 3-lane 25-meter pool and a 6-lane 25-meter pool

It seems that an expression like "x-lane y-meter pool" is used widely.

Using "y-meter pool with x lanes", "a 25-meter pool with 3 lanes and a 25-meter pool with 6 lanes" is also possible.


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Note added at 2005-01-17 17:18:55 (GMT)
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Instead of ¥"25-meter¥", using ¥"25m¥" seems to be poplular, too.

http://www.google.com/search?q="lane 25m pool"


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Note added at 2005-01-17 17:33:13 (GMT)
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In Google:

523 examples of ¥"... lane 25-meter pool¥"
106 examples of ¥"... lane 25-meter swimming pool¥"

http://www.google.com/search?q="lane 25-meter swimming pool"

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Note added at 2005-01-18 15:44:35 (GMT) Post-grading
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I think that saying ¥"two pools with 3 25-meter lanes and 6 25-meter lanes¥" may be confusing, although the Japanese expression looks like this. Since my rendition includes two noun phrases connected with ¥"and¥" (i.e., ¥"a ... Noun and a ... Noun¥"), it refers to the expression in Japanese.

For clarification, in ¥"25M3コースと25M6コースの2面のプール¥", both ¥"25M3コース¥" and ¥"25M6コースの¥" modifies ¥"プール¥", and, furthermore, ¥"2面の¥" also modifies ¥"プール¥". So, the quantifier ¥"2面の¥" cannot modify ¥"25M6コースの¥" backwards. If you want the quantifier ¥"2面¥" to modify ¥"25M6コース¥", the expression has to be ¥"25M6コース2面のプール¥". Since ¥"25M6コース¥" and ¥"2面¥" are connected without a conjunct, ¥"2面¥" in this case modifies ¥"25M6コース¥", and, furthermore, the whole ¥"¥"25M6コース2面の¥" modiflies ¥"プール¥", which means ¥"two 25-meter 6-lane pools¥".



    Reference: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22lane+25-meter+pool%22
    Reference: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22pool+with+3+lanes%22
jsl (X)
Local time: 01:02
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thanks, Daisuke. I can't find how to add a note to my question w/o grading it, so I'll go on and award the points to Daisuke, but I wanted to ask if this definitely means 2 separate pools? Is "men" the counting unit for pools in Jpns? Are we sure it's not one pool divided down the middle or something?? Just checking...

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kaori Myatt: swimming pool?
10 mins
  -> Thanks. "pool" could be "swimming pool", but, considering the less frequency of "y-meter swimming pool" in Google, "pool" itself seems to clearly refer to "swimming pool".

agree  mstkwasa
2 hrs
  -> thanks

neutral  Maynard Hogg: In ISO countries, m is LOWER case (M = mega), and there's a space between 25 and m, but Japanese persist 25Kg, 25Km, and other aberrations.
6 hrs

agree  davekapp: "助数詞。平たい物を数えるのに用いる。" ex. "テニスーコート" Yeah, I agree that it is clearly two pools.
1 day 20 hrs
  -> thanks
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25M3コースと25M6コースの2面のプール
Two pools: 25m/3-lane and 25m/6-lane


Explanation:
Without disagreeing with others' replies, note that 2面のプール is here and should be included in the translation to clearly state that the facility has 2 pools.

Kurt Hammond
United States
Local time: 09:02
Native speaker of: English
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