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5 | cand.mag. degree |
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BA Explanation: OK, cand. mag. stands for "CANDIDATA/CANDIDATUS MAGISTERII". It is the BA in Norway, which comprises the grunnfag, mellomfag and storfag. It is called like this and not with a more precise name, because in Norway you may study different subjects during your BA studies; that is first year, for your grunnfag, you may choose Anthropology, then do Social Studies, then in the third year Archeology, and so on. Thus you get a general degree and not a specialised one, as in most other European countries. I would translate it as "Cand.Mag" (BA), i.e. in the same way as I said I would translate grunnfag, mellomfag, etc., yesterday. Whichever way you choose, as you know, you just have to be consistent! If you want to have a look at a context, see the University of Oslo's web page http://www.matnat.uio.no/english/candmag.html which also provides a description of Cand.mag. They have left it as "Cand.mag" degree Provided above |
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Addition Explanation: grad = degree This doesn't change anything in the translation, you would still translate it as "BA" or "Cand.mag. degree (BA)", but just to be thorough...! I also thought I'd add the following excerpt from the page provided below: "Candidatus/Candidata magisterii (the cand. mag. degree). This degree is offered at universities and state colleges (some of these call it "regional cand.mag."), and at some university colleges. It may be taken at all universities in fields within the humanities, natural sciences and social sciences, or through a combination of these. The cand.mag. normally requires 4 years of study, with examinations totalling 80 vekttall, or 240 ECTS credits. An exception is the cand.mag. in natural sciences, which requires 210 ECTS credits, or 3 1/2 years of study. The cand.mag. degree in the university sector includes preparatory courses in, for instance, philosophy, logic, theory of science, and ethics, the combination of which is called Examen philosophicum and Examen facultatum (30 ECTS credits). The cand.mag. degree implies a general education, which means that students have considerable choice when selecting subjects leading to the degree. The minimum requirement is at least 1 ½ years of study in one subject, leading to a mellomfag (intermediate subject, 90 ECTS credits) and at least one year of study in one other subject leading to a grunnfag (basic subject, 60 ECTS credits)." Reference: http://www.nmh.no/ects/high_edu.html |
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cand.mag. degree Explanation: The previous note on this page is incorrect. CAND.MAG. is a degree. You should never translate one degree into another. Instead, use the amount of ECTS in brackets to understand the level. In the case of the CAND.MAG. degree which took 4 years plus 1 semester for examen philosophicum, this equalled 270 ECTS. For comparison, a Norwegian M.Phil. is 300 ECTS while a Norwegian B.A. is 180 ECTS. This proves how wrong it is to attempt equalling one degree to another. The Candidatus Magisterii was a degree that equaled the Norwegian "embedseksamen", thus preparing for a position as a teacher in the gymnasium /artium or for a position as an executive officer in public administration. This status was removed with the new educational system in Norway, so never translate CAND.MAG. into a bachelor's degree or an M.Phil. This is misleading and illegal. The CAND.MAG. degree at the Faculty of History and Philosophy took 4-5 years to complete, while the degree at the Faculty of Mathematics and natural sciences took 3-4 years, hence the original misunderstanding (see references) above. Candidatus Magisterii in Latin translates as Candidate of the Master's Degree, closer to the Anglo-Saxon MA Honors degree, which is also a 4-year degree but an undergraduate level, awarded in the United Kingdom, Scotland, and New Zealand, but also previously in Germany. The CAND.MAG. degree is currently awarded in Denmark, where it is equivalent to the Norwegian M.Phil. (300 ECTS). Please remove this misconception that degrees are universally translatable from one country to another. Don't forget that MAGISTER means teacher in latin. Example sentence(s):
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candidata_magisterii https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cand.mag. |
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