jacht pełnomorski

English translation: ocean-going yacht; offshore yacht

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Polish term or phrase:jacht pełnomorski
English translation:ocean-going yacht; offshore yacht
Entered by: Polangmar

20:38 May 26, 2014
Polish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Ships, Sailing, Maritime
Polish term or phrase: jacht pełnomorski
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Monika Sojka
United Kingdom
Local time: 04:42
ocean-going yacht
Explanation:
ew. ocean-going sailing boat

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Note added at 10 mins (2014-05-26 20:48:17 GMT)
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Też "ocean-going sailboat" lub "ocean-going sailing yacht" (dodawanie "sailing" w tym drugim przypadku nie jest konieczne).

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Możliwa, chociaż chyba rzadsza, jest pisownia łączna: ocean-going yacht

pełnomorski
oceangoing
oceaniczny, pełnomorski (np. statek)
ocean-going
http://www.diki.pl/slownik-angielskiego/?q=pełnomorski

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Note added at 20 mins (2014-05-26 20:58:23 GMT)
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Ta rzadsza pisownia łączna to, oczywiście, "oceangoing", nie "ocean-going".
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Polangmar
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4 +2ocean-going yacht
Polangmar
4 +1sea-going yacht
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
4 +1offshore yacht
Joanna Rączka
5design category A - ocean - yacht/sailboat
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
ocean-going yacht


Explanation:
ew. ocean-going sailing boat

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Note added at 10 mins (2014-05-26 20:48:17 GMT)
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Też "ocean-going sailboat" lub "ocean-going sailing yacht" (dodawanie "sailing" w tym drugim przypadku nie jest konieczne).

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Note added at 17 mins (2014-05-26 20:56:04 GMT)
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Możliwa, chociaż chyba rzadsza, jest pisownia łączna: ocean-going yacht

pełnomorski
oceangoing
oceaniczny, pełnomorski (np. statek)
ocean-going
http://www.diki.pl/slownik-angielskiego/?q=pełnomorski

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Note added at 20 mins (2014-05-26 20:58:23 GMT)
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Ta rzadsza pisownia łączna to, oczywiście, "oceangoing", nie "ocean-going".

Polangmar
Poland
Local time: 05:42
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
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agree  Kasia Bogucka: Tak jest, nie inaczej.
35 mins
  -> Dziękuję.:)

agree  Joanna Rączka: potocznie
14 hrs

neutral  Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.: Too colloquial.
1 day 3 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
sea-going yacht


Explanation:
Morski refers to the sea, not the ocean.
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Building Shine was inspired by the Bering Sea crab fishery boats; she was designed and constructed to be a tough sea going yacht.
http://www.superyachts.com/luxury-yacht-for-sale/shine-1146/

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designed and equipped for travelling on the sea. a sea-going yacht
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sea-going

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Sea going yacht ASTERIA boasts a fabulous sky lounge complete with wet bar, lounge seating, cocktail seating and a 76'' 3D TV with surround sound.

http://www.charterworld.com/index.html?sub=yacht-charter&cha...
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Concerning the aptitude of sailing the seas, the term is
seaworthy yacht

- The first Goeree 1270 motor sailer is an easy to handle and seaworthy yacht with a spacious interior and state-of-the-art...

http://www.oliviervanmeer.com/yachts/5760/goeree_1270_motor_...

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Local time: 00:42
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 103

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mike23
5 hrs
  -> Dziękuję bardzo Michale.

agree  Joanna Rączka: potocznie
12 hrs
  -> Thanks, Joanna. For legal definition, I need to find a similar article to yours in English.

disagree  Polangmar: "Sea-going" nie oddaje dobrze znaczenia - jest to jacht kategorii morskiej, nie PEŁNOmorskiej. || Zgadzam się z tym: "Jeżeli tekst nie jest prawny... stosowałabym ocean-going" - nie zgadzam się z "sea going".
20 hrs
  -> Colloquially - as Joanna says - the seas means the open expanse of waters. The debate is over the legal vs. colloquial description. Apparently, you disagree with Joanna too.
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
offshore yacht


Explanation:
Zgodnie z dyrektywą 94/25/WE i Rozporządzeniem Ministra Gospodarki, Pracy i Polityki Społecznej z dnia 31 marca 2003. (Dz.U. z 23.05.2003, poz. 857)
Kategoria konstrukcyjna | Siła wiatru | (stopnie skali Beauforta) | Wysokość fali | (H 1/3, metry)
A. Essential safety requirements for the design and construction of craft
A - „Oceaniczna” | przekraczająca 8 | przekraczająca 4
▼B
B - „Morska” | włącznie do 8 | włącznie do 4
1. BOAT DESIGN CATEGORIES
C - „Przybrzeżna” | włącznie do 6 | włącznie do 2
▼M1
D - „Dla wód osłoniętych” | włącznie do 4 | włącznie do 0,3
Design category | Wind force | (Beaufort scale) | Significant wave height | (H 1/3, metres)
▼B
A - ‘Ocean’ | exceeding 8 | exceeding 4
Definicje:
B - ‘Offshore’ | up to, and including, 8 | up to, and including, 4
▼M1
C - ‘Inshore’ | up to, and including, 6 | up to, and including, 2
A. | OCEANICZNA : zaprojektowana do dalekich podróży w warunkach, gdy siła wiatru może przekroczyć 8 stopni (w skali Beauforta) a wysokość fal może osiągać 4 m i więcej, ale z wyłączeniem warunków nienormalnych, w znacznym stopniu samowystarczalna.
D - ‘Sheltered waters’ | up to, and including, 4 | up to, and including, 0,3
▼B
▼B
B. | PEŁNOMORSKA : jednostki zaprojektowane do rejsów pełnomorskich, w warunkach wiatru o sile do 8 °B włącznie i przy fali o wysokości znaczącej do 4 metrów włącznie.
Definitions:
C. | PRZYBRZEŻNA : jednostki zaprojektowane do rejsów po wodach przybrzeżnych, dużych zatokach, zalewach, jeziorach i rzekach, w warunkach wiatru o sile do 6 °B włącznie i przy fali o wysokości znaczącej do 2 metrów włącznie.
▼M1
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A. OCEAN: Designed for extended voyages where conditions may exceed wind force 8 (Beaufort scale) and significant wave heights of 4 m and above but excluding abnormal conditions, and vessels largely self-sufficient.
D. | DLA WÓD OSŁONIĘTYCH : zaprojektowana do podróży po osłoniętych wodach przybrzeżnych, małych zatokach, małych jeziorach, rzekach i kanałach w warunkach, gdy siła wiatru może osiągać do 4 stopni (w skali Beauforta) włącznie, a wysokość fal może dochodzić do 0,3 m, sporadycznie do maksymalnej wysokości 0,5 m, na przykład od przepływających statków.
▼B
Łodzie każdej z kategorii są zaprojektowane i skonstruowane tak, aby spełniały parametry odnoszące się do stabilności, wyporności oraz innych zasadniczych wymogów wymienionych w załączniku I i aby miały dobrą sterowność.
B. OFFSHORE: Designed for offshore voyages where conditions up to, and including, wind force 8 and significant wave heights up to, and including, 4 m may be experienced.
▼B
C. INSHORE: Designed for voyages in coastal waters, large bays, estuaries, lakes and rivers where conditions up to, and including, wind force 6 and significant wave heights up to, and including, 2 m may be experienced.
2. WYMAGANIA OGÓLNE
▼M1
▼M1
D. SHELTERED WATERS: Designed for voyages on sheltered coastal waters, small bays, small lakes, rivers and canals when conditions up to, and including, wind force 4 and significant wave heights up to, and including, 0,3 m may be experienced, with occasional waves of 0,5 m maximum height, for example from passing vessels.

Przepisy PRS tego nie definiują, podają tylko klasy jachtu - bez ograniczeń i z ograniczeniem rejonu żeglugi - I, II, III lub V. W starych przepisach te klasy nazywały się "żegluga wielka", "żegluga mała", żegluga "bałtycka", żegluga przybrzeżna i po wodach osłoniętych".
W rozumieniu potocznym jacht pełnomorski to jacht z klasą bez ograniczeń, inaczej dopuszczony do żeglugi wielkiej, czyli oceanicznej. Jednak aktualna prawna definicja jest inna.
Jeżeli tekst nie jest prawny, tylko potoczny stosowałabym ocean-going.



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Potocznie obie formy - sea-going i ocean-going - są stosowane i słowniki podają je jako synonimy.


    Reference: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/PL-EN/TXT/?qid=140118...
Joanna Rączka
Poland
Local time: 05:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 24

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agree  Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.: Thank you, Joanna.
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
design category A - ocean - yacht/sailboat


Explanation:
UK and EC Recreational Craft Directive design categories:
A-ocean
B-offshore
C-inshore
D--sheltered waters

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Also known as ISO standards

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Note added at 1 day1 hr (2014-05-27 22:11:00 GMT)
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Sailboat Design Categories, STIX and Dynamic Stability

Just what are these design categories? In the UK and other EC countries, all pleasure boats must be marked as complying with one of four design categories as set out by the Recreational Craft Directive (RCD).

These four categories A, B, C and D

A ~ Ocean
B ~ Offshore
C ~ Inshore
D ~ Sheltered Waters
are described primarily by the wave and wind conditions likely to be encountered and the circumstances under which such a boat might be used.





Design Category A ~ 'OCEAN'

Designed for extended voyages where conditions may exceed winds of Beaufort F8 and significant wave heights of 4m and above, and for which vessels must be largely self-sufficient.


Design Category B ~ 'OFFSHORE'

Designed for offshore voyages where conditions up to, and including winds of wind force 8 and significant wave heights up to, and including 4m may be experienced.

Design Category C ~ 'INSHORE'

Designed for sailing in coastal waters, large bays, estuaries, lakes and rivers where conditions up to and wind force 6 and significant wave heights up to, and including 2m may be experienced.

Design Category D ~ 'SHELTERED WATERS'

Designed for sailing on small lakes, rivers and canals where conditions up to and wind F4 and significant wave heights up to, and including 0.5m may be experienced.

- See more at: http://www.sailboat-cruising.com/design-categories.html#stha...

http://www.sailboat-cruising.com/design-categories.html

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Local time: 00:42
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 103

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Joanna Rączka: according to the official translation of this directive (and ISO standard) - A - ocean is oceaniczny, B - offshore is pełnomorski
22 mins
  -> How about A-flat minor? I thought we were trying to get this dinghy into open waters of the ocean. I called the American Yachting Club: there are no such classifications here - if it floats, it sails.
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