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testemunhas constantes

English translation: witnesses mentioned

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Portuguese term or phrase:testemunhas constantes
English translation:witnesses mentioned
Entered by: isarcat

20:23 May 20, 2004
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
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Portuguese term or phrase: testemunhas constantes
Still the same marriage certificate (Br.):

"... o assento do matrimonio de.... e... contraido perante o... e com a presença das testemunhas constantes do respectivo têrmo."

A minha duvida e testemunhas constantes (permanent resident witnesses???) e "têrmo" que penso ser district (?)

Thanks!!
isarcat
Local time: 01:57
witnesses mentioned
Explanation:
It means the witnesses mentioned in the document, from the verb 'constar' - 'to be part of'.
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Sormane Gomes
United States
Local time: 01:57
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Thank you
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2witnesses mentioned
Sormane Gomes
5 +1witnesses whose names
Lumen (X)
5witnesses of record on this day
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
5 -3constant witnesses (to signature)
ttagir


Discussion entries: 2





  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
witnesses mentioned


Explanation:
It means the witnesses mentioned in the document, from the verb 'constar' - 'to be part of'.

Sormane Gomes
United States
Local time: 01:57
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 28
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  António Ribeiro: witnesses mentioned in the registry book / document
14 hrs
agree  Henrique Magalhaes
2 days 13 hrs
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -3
constant witnesses (to signature)


Explanation:
in the presence of the due (eye-)witnesses (to signature)
or
in the presence of constant witnesses
I.e., the witnesses were present during this act.
As for "constant witnesses", see
fou.uniting.com.au/adelaide.html
www.members.tripod.com/~jealsup/B4351g.html
!!! www.members.tripod.com/~jealsup/A1131e.html www.skypoint.com/~waltzmn/MSCategories.html !!!
PLS VISIT
www.orderofmalta.org/ notizia.asp?idlingua=5&IDNotizia=33

See also (additions)
www.jurifax.com/extracts/3450Econ.pdf (WILL (made in the presence of witnesses))
www.lectlaw.com/def2/t082.htm
www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_219.html

Yours
T.

ttagir
Local time: 08:57
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in TatarTatar

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Donna Sandin: not very clear, and sounds odd to me
7 mins
disagree  Lumen (X): Very odd
7 hrs
disagree  António Ribeiro: Extremely odd
14 hrs
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
witnesses of record on this day


Explanation:
que constam no papel....de constar....nada a ver com residência..



têrmo= veja o Aurelio

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Note added at 7 mins (2004-05-20 20:30:48 GMT)
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essa palavra é as vezes muito complicada..leia as definições no Aurélio..uma delas [jur[ tem a ver com o fato de algo ser feito num prazo...é a idéia de on this day em inglés

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Note added at 8 mins (2004-05-20 20:31:40 GMT)
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on the day thereof= of the marriage

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Note added at 10 mins (2004-05-20 20:33:41 GMT)
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TRANSLATION: and in the presence of the witnesses of record on the day thereof

Vamas a luta, gente! :)

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Note added at 11 mins (2004-05-20 20:35:05 GMT)
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testemunhas constantes are testemunhas que constam no certificado...witnesses of record meaning as recorded...

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Note added at 22 mins (2004-05-20 20:45:38 GMT)
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termo= sorry...aqui é o documento

FINAL 2witnesses recorded on this document..

termo também é prazo más aqui não, um erro da minha parete

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Note added at 23 mins (2004-05-20 20:47:06 GMT)
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More elegant: Witnesses whose names are recorded HEREON OR HEREUNDER>

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 24
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
witnesses whose names


Explanation:
e com a presença das testemunhas constantes do respectivo têrmo."

and in the presence of the witnesses whose names appear on the document.

Absolutely sure, but the credit should really go to Donna Sandin, who helped me with this translation some time ago.

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Note added at 12 mins (2004-05-20 20:36:11 GMT)
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The question here is that isacrat - the asker - did not realize that the word *contantes* has to do with *termo* and not with *testemunhas*.
So: as testemunhas (cujos nomes) constam do termo - witnesses whose names appear on the document (termo).

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Note added at 7 hrs 41 mins (2004-05-21 04:04:41 GMT)
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Isacart, you asked: One thing: the witnesses aren\'t named on the document I\'m translating. Could it be that they are only on the marriage record? (the registry book?) I don\'t think I should say \"named hereunder\", since well, they\'re not..

No, they aren\'t, but they are in the registry book, which is the original document. What you have is probably a marriage certificate, right? Read Donna\'s comment.


Lumen (X)
Brazil
Local time: 02:57
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): I think itmeans that are recorded as being the witnesses which is in fact similar to what you are saying
3 mins
  -> OK, but where did you get the *on this day* from the source language?
agree  Donna Sandin: this is a shortcut to make it unnecessary to list the witnesses by name. Instead they refer people to the record (the termo in this case).
15 mins
  -> Thanks for the comment.
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