silábico-alfabético sem significado

English translation: syllabic–alphabetic stage of no clinical significance

14:28 Dec 17, 2020
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy
Portuguese term or phrase: silábico-alfabético sem significado
The term is one of the stages of learning to read in Portuguese, which are: Pré-silábica, silábica, silábico-alfabético e alfabética.
From a medical report for a student with learning disability:

"Paciente apresentam-se fase silábico-alfabético sem significado"

I don't think these stages of learning correspond directly with English, any ideas?
Jack Martin
Brazil
Local time: 03:41
English translation:syllabic–alphabetic stage of no clinical significance
Explanation:
Children in the syllabic–alphabetic stage produce spellings such as〈PAL〉for palo ‘stick’ in which some letters stand for phonemes and others stand for syllables.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3854926/

(Considering it's from a medical report, I assumed clínico was implicit in "sem significado [clínico]".)

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Note added at 6 days (2020-12-24 12:34:29 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you, Jack! Reading your following question, though, leaves me with no doubts that “sem significado” refers to the clinical assessment of the specific learning stage the child is at, the syllabic-alphabetic one. All 4 sentences bellow end with a clinical assessment or recommendation.
“Memória visual: adequado para idade.
Raciocinio lógico: tem que ser direcionado.
Leitura: silábica alfabética sem significado.
Cálculos mais no concreto.”
I hope this helps!
Thank you again, and Merry Xmas :)
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Cláudia Pinheiro Pereira
Portugal
Local time: 06:41
Grading comment
Thanks for your help. I am giving this the points as it got the most support, and even the poster of the rival answer thought this was correct! Personally, I am not totally convinced and think the meaning is more about the child being at the syllabic alphabetic stage of reading but without knowing the meaning of the words,
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3syllabic–alphabetic stage of no clinical significance
Cláudia Pinheiro Pereira
5 +1syllabic- alphabetical without (lexical) meaning
Julia Caldana


  

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
syllabic- alphabetical without (lexical) meaning


Explanation:
Page 33: “Under the psychogenetic perspective it is clear that in the acquisition of the process of writing the child progresses through four stages: pre-syllabic, syllabic, syllabic-alphabetical, and alphabetical (Portilla and Teberosky, 2007; Portilla, Peró and Teberosky, 2009).”


    https://www.redalyc.org/pdf/167/16749090005.pdf
Julia Caldana
Brazil
Local time: 03:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Robertson
17 hrs
  -> Thank you! :)
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37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
syllabic–alphabetic stage of no clinical significance


Explanation:
Children in the syllabic–alphabetic stage produce spellings such as〈PAL〉for palo ‘stick’ in which some letters stand for phonemes and others stand for syllables.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3854926/

(Considering it's from a medical report, I assumed clínico was implicit in "sem significado [clínico]".)

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Note added at 6 days (2020-12-24 12:34:29 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you, Jack! Reading your following question, though, leaves me with no doubts that “sem significado” refers to the clinical assessment of the specific learning stage the child is at, the syllabic-alphabetic one. All 4 sentences bellow end with a clinical assessment or recommendation.
“Memória visual: adequado para idade.
Raciocinio lógico: tem que ser direcionado.
Leitura: silábica alfabética sem significado.
Cálculos mais no concreto.”
I hope this helps!
Thank you again, and Merry Xmas :)

Example sentence(s):
  • Children in the syllabic–alphabetic stage produce spellings such as 〈PAL〉 for palo ‘stick’ in which some letters stand for phonemes and others stand for syllables.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3854926/
Cláudia Pinheiro Pereira
Portugal
Local time: 06:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks for your help. I am giving this the points as it got the most support, and even the poster of the rival answer thought this was correct! Personally, I am not totally convinced and think the meaning is more about the child being at the syllabic alphabetic stage of reading but without knowing the meaning of the words,

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Julia Caldana: At first, I thought "sem significado" referred to the meaning of the words (in this case, the syllables) that are being pronounced. After reading your answer, though, I believe the clinical interpretation makes more sense in this context. Cheers, Cláudia!
49 mins
  -> Thank you so much for your comment, Julia :)

agree  Clauwolf
1 hr
  -> Muito obrigada!

agree  Leandro Serrano
32 days
  -> Obrigada, Leandro!
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