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суп-харчо

English translation: Georgian Beef-Walnut Soup with fresh herbs

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Russian term or phrase:суп-харчо
English translation:Georgian Beef-Walnut Soup with fresh herbs
Entered by: Yelena.

20:50 Apr 13, 2004
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Cooking / Culinary
Russian term or phrase: суп-харчо
Кто-нибудь знаком с переводом названия этого блюда?
Транслитерация меня не совсем устраивает, нужен хотя-бы описательный перевод.
Mikhail Shchur
Russian Federation
Local time: 18:59
Georgian Beef-Walnut Soup with fresh herbs
Explanation:
А рецепт здесь:

http://www.soupsong.com/rkharcho.html
Selected response from:

Yelena.
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:59
Grading comment
Спасибо. Но в моем меню он все-таки был с бараниной.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4Georgian Beef-Walnut Soup with fresh herbs
Yelena.
5 +2Invite the rest of us over when you make it! - Not for grading.
Jack slep
5beef soup with rice and spices
manana
5Spicy Georgian Kharcho Soup with Walnut
Natalie Sanadze
4 -1Mutton Soup
Roy Cochrun


  

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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Georgian Beef-Walnut Soup with fresh herbs


Explanation:
А рецепт здесь:

http://www.soupsong.com/rkharcho.html


    Reference: http://www.soupsong.com/rkharcho.html
Yelena.
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Спасибо. Но в моем меню он все-таки был с бараниной.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jack slep: yes, that was one of them
33 mins
agree  Vetaler (X): you can try here too:http://www.angelfire.com/ga/Georgian/cousine.html
45 mins
agree  Yakov Tomara: Never heard of walnuts :-) So, we see the "lowest common denominator" for all answers: "spicy (mutton or beef) soup with rice"
8 hrs
agree  Maya Gorgoshidze
8 hrs
agree  Ravindra Godbole
16 hrs
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Mutton Soup


Explanation:
According to Cultural Guide to Russia, Русско-английский культурологический словарь(М. 2002) it is "Kharcho. A mutton soup; very spicy. Very popular in the Caucasus region. A Caucasian dish.

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Note added at 2004-04-13 23:12:10 (GMT)
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My response to mn54 truncated the e-mail address. It is [email protected]

Roy Cochrun
United States
Local time: 11:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jack slep: I don't know about the mutton rather than beef, but invite me over - I love mutton!
21 mins
disagree  manana: I'm Georgian. That's not mutton soup. Trust me on that.
1 hr
  -> I didn't compile the dictionary. Complain to [email protected]
agree  Yakov Tomara: In Russia "kharcho" usually stands for spicy mutton soup with rice. Perhaps the original Georgian recipe was distorted, it's quite probable :-)
8 hrs
disagree  Natalie Sanadze: I'm with mn54
10 hrs
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Invite the rest of us over when you make it! - Not for grading.


Explanation:
Kharcho
Source: Olga, RussianFoods.com Editor Mail to: [email protected]

Description
Kharcho is Caucasian dish, hot soup with beef and rice. The special and unusual taste is reached by tkemali, sauce made from plums.

Method
Slice the beef and cook with bones in cold water until half done. Heat tomato paste in fat. Add well washed rice, chopped onion, fried tomato paste, ground garlic and cook on law heat for 40 minutes. Add tkemali or vinegar at the end. Serve with parsley, cilantro or mint.

Ingredients
500 g beef chuck.
100 g bones.
150 g rice.
50 g fat.
10 g garlic.
50 g tomato paste.
50 g tkemali (hot plum sauce).
or 30 g wine vinegar.
150 g onion.
greens.





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Note added at 2004-04-13 21:26:46 (GMT)
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There are many, many \"foreign\" dishes that keep their name - spaghetti, chow mein, pirogi, taco, etc., etc.. I wouldn\'t be afraid to use \"kharcho\" (there are several hundred hits in Google) with perhaps a parenthetical brief explanation. As a translator, remember every word does not have an equivalent in another language and it\'s a waste of time to try to find one. Use the original and explain it, if necessary.

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Note added at 2004-04-14 13:32:23 (GMT)
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I\'m from Georgia, too, Georgia, USA that is! Never heard of kharcho here, but if we had that dish we would make it out of road-kill opposum, plentiful and tasty (if the vultures didn\'t get to them first!)

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Note added at 2004-04-14 13:37:33 (GMT)
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From Google:
Многие считают, что для харчо необходима баранина. Это нелепое заблуждение, что ясно даже из самого названия. Харчо - суп не из баранины, а из говядины. Название харчо на грузинском языке - дзерохис хорци харшот - означает именно говяжий суп. Собственно говоря, кто их знает, эти грузинские названия? Так и пишут до сих пор в наших меню: чахохбили из курицы, чахохбили из утки, а \"чахох\" по-грузински - фазан. Это же все равно, что писать \"яичница из репы\". Да, мы не знаем грузинскую кухню, но она всегда была нам интересна


    see above
Jack slep
Local time: 11:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 6

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  kire (X): I agree with "kharcho", but the original recipe is still mutton, not beef. Though I guess both are good :)
15 mins
  -> Thanks, Kire. I'm sure, as you say, both are good, but see note Added (from Goggle)
agree  Yakov Tomara: I'm more familiar with the 'mutton' version but maybe both are far from the original Georgian recipe :-)
8 hrs
  -> We'll never know!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
суп-харчо
beef soup with rice and spices


Explanation:
This soup is made of small pieces of beef, rice, tomatoes,garlic and soteed onions spices and herbs, sometimes a little minced walnut is added.

manana
United States
Local time: 11:59
Native speaker of: Native in GeorgianGeorgian, Native in RussianRussian
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
суп-харчо
Spicy Georgian Kharcho Soup with Walnut


Explanation:
Классически он готовится из говяжьей грудинки, иногда из курицы.

Вот борщ, например, это свиной суп, говяжий, куриный или постный?? По-моему, главная очличительная черта борща - присутствие свеклы и капусты, а остальные компоненты - уж как Бог пошлет.

Так и СУП харчо. Вкус ему придает особый набор специй - кориандр, уцхо-сунели, харчо-сунели и чеснок. По большому счету, и на орехах можно съэкономить, хотя я лично не советую. Туда не так уж и много идет орехов (в отличие от ХАРЧО - густого мясного соуса с большим количеством орехов, который едят с кукурузной мамалыгой). Что касается бульона-основы, классический варится из говядины, хотя, если в пост захотелось вкусненького, можно и суррогат-какой изобразить.
Кроме того в супе-харчо притствует рис, но его можно заменить мелкой вермишелью.


    personal experience
    Reference: http://russia-in-us.com/Cuisine/Dadiani/gsoups.htm
Natalie Sanadze
Local time: 19:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in GeorgianGeorgian
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