kamennyi ugol

English translation: hard coal

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Russian term or phrase:kamennyi ugol
English translation:hard coal
Entered by: Emily Justice

09:35 Dec 20, 2007
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Energy / Power Generation
Russian term or phrase: kamennyi ugol
I am trying to establish whether this should be translated simply as 'coal' or whether it ALWAYS refers to coal with a particularly high carbon content. i.e. hard coal (or possibly black coal).
Emily Justice
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:13
hard coal
Explanation:
World Coal Institute - Coal Facts
Approximately 13% (around 717Mt) of total hard coal production is currently used by the steel ... International Hard Coal Trade (Source: IEA - www.iea.org) ...
www.worldcoal.org/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=188 - 41k - Cached - Similar pages
hard coal - definition of hard coal by the Free Online Dictionary ...
Definition of hard coal in the Online Dictionary. Meaning of hard coal. What does hard coal mean? hard coal synonyms, hard coal antonyms.
www.thefreedictionary.com/hard coal - 26k - Cached - Similar pages
Hard Coal and Coal Cars - Blackwell Online
Blackwell: Hard Coal and Coal Cars, Martin Robert Karig, University of Scranton Press,US.
bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/jsp/welcome.jsp?source=rss&isbn=1589661206 - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Hard coal :: Suppliers in the UK
Hard coal - Suppliers in the UK. The UK's leading business search engine has found 28 suppliers in the the UK. View matching companies. Regional Breakdown ...
www.kompass.co.uk/directory/products/item/0/uk/Hard_coal/11...
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Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:13
Grading comment
Thanks to all. In the end I checked with the client and they just meant 'generic coal', but it was useful for me to see that I did have grounds for checking.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4bituminous coal
Nik-On/Off
4 +2hard coal
Jack Doughty
4 +1black coal
Igor Blinov
4 +1coal
Victoria Ibrahimova


Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
black coal


Explanation:
you are absolutely right - with high carbon content

Igor Blinov
Russian Federation
Local time: 09:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 272

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ryszard Matuszewski: or "hard coal" - in some parts of the world it's called "black coal"
1 hr
  -> Thanks!
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
coal


Explanation:
I think it's just coal.

Victoria Ibrahimova
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Alexander Kondorsky: Depends on the context, but unless otherwise stated it is just COAL
22 mins
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56 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
hard coal


Explanation:
World Coal Institute - Coal Facts
Approximately 13% (around 717Mt) of total hard coal production is currently used by the steel ... International Hard Coal Trade (Source: IEA - www.iea.org) ...
www.worldcoal.org/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=188 - 41k - Cached - Similar pages
hard coal - definition of hard coal by the Free Online Dictionary ...
Definition of hard coal in the Online Dictionary. Meaning of hard coal. What does hard coal mean? hard coal synonyms, hard coal antonyms.
www.thefreedictionary.com/hard coal - 26k - Cached - Similar pages
Hard Coal and Coal Cars - Blackwell Online
Blackwell: Hard Coal and Coal Cars, Martin Robert Karig, University of Scranton Press,US.
bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/jsp/welcome.jsp?source=rss&isbn=1589661206 - 35k - Cached - Similar pages
Hard coal :: Suppliers in the UK
Hard coal - Suppliers in the UK. The UK's leading business search engine has found 28 suppliers in the the UK. View matching companies. Regional Breakdown ...
www.kompass.co.uk/directory/products/item/0/uk/Hard_coal/11...

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 168
Grading comment
Thanks to all. In the end I checked with the client and they just meant 'generic coal', but it was useful for me to see that I did have grounds for checking.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ryszard Matuszewski
11 mins
  -> Thank you.

agree  Jack slep: Absolutely, no question about it. Any Russian geological or related dictionary would confirm so.
8 days
  -> Thank you. Yes, I have one (by Alekseyev et al.), which does.
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
bituminous coal


Explanation:
Here is what my dictionary says:
Каменный уголь - (часто, но неточно, любой ископаемый уголь) coal; (в точном словоупотреблении — уголь средней степени метаморфизма) bituminous coal

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-12-20 10:48:34 GMT)
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Compare classifications of coal:
Russian classification (http://tinyurl.com/2fzcyt):
1. Бурые угли.
2. Каменные угли.
3. Антрациты.
4. Графиты.
Western classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#Types_of_coal):
1. Lignite, also referred to as brown coal.
2. Sub-bituminous coal, bituminous coal.
3. Anthracite.
4. Graphite.

Nik-On/Off
Ukraine
Local time: 09:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 138

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Valery Kaminski
19 mins
  -> thanks

agree  Jennifer Guernsey: Agreed - whether you need to specify "bituminous" or not will depend on your context, but I don't think it can hurt in any case.
29 mins
  -> Thank you!

agree  Ryszard Matuszewski: or "hard coal" (technical dictionary)
41 mins
  -> Thank you!

neutral  Alexander Kondorsky: Надеюсь Вы не утверждаете, что словари всегда правы? Я повторяю, все зависит от контекста: Если дана таблица классификации угле, то Вы правы, если в тексте просто упомянут "каменный уголь" то это просто coal
45 mins
  -> Я не понял, что вы сказали, Александр. Я ведь просто привел то, что написано в словаре/ Ну вы б тогда так и написали, что, мол, словарь говорит неправду// Не, не утверждаю :)

agree  lanochka: А что у Вас за словарь? : ))
59 mins
  -> Русско-английский Политехнический словарь. Изд. «Русский Язык» 1996 г.
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