Властитель льда

18:39 Oct 11, 2013

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Idioms / Maxims / Sayings

Russian term or phrase: Властитель льда

"Властитель льда! Ты — не прав." This is quoted in personal correspondence, but I don't recognize it. Can anyone identify the source?

TIA.

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the Ice King

LilianNekipelov

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Judith Hehir

United States

ASKER

Correction, I think:

18:41 Oct 12, 2013

This text is difficult to decipher and I believe I misread it: Looking at it again, I suspect it is actually "Властитель мира! Ты - не прав."
I suspect I need to post a new question.

Judith Hehir

United States

ASKER

Thank you, Svetlana.

17:26 Oct 12, 2013

That's interesting. The letter is written from one family member to another and the writer is making a personal objection — not so much on the theme of betrayal as on the theme of having been misunderstood, misjudged in a given situation. A very interesting thought.

svetlana cosquéric

France

Данте

15:52 Oct 12, 2013

кажется у него в аду вмерзли в лёд грешники, предавшие родных, и среди них Властитель Ада Люцифер....
имеет ли это какое-нибудь отношение к вашему случаю... :)

Judith Hehir

United States

ASKER

Keep working on it, everybody.

21:39 Oct 11, 2013

I am confident you'll find it! I agree with Mikhail. I suspect it's a quote from something that was quite familiar to the writer and recipient of the letter.

Alexandra Schneeuhr

Cyprus

21:22 Oct 11, 2013

"Властители льдов" Романова М. - исключено, ибо новодел, а письмо вполне себе антикварное...

Mikhail Kropotov

Germany

You're right about quotation marks

21:13 Oct 11, 2013

But this one does resemble a literary quote much more than it does an unusual use of a term.

Helen Hagon

20:59 Oct 11, 2013

Just a suggestion - could this simply be a reference to someone's ice skating prowess? If so, 'King', 'Lord', 'Master' etc would all be acceptable. Russians often use quotes to denote an unusual use of language, rather than a direct quotation from another source.

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.

United States

19:35 Oct 11, 2013

Ruler of the Ice.

LanaUK

United Kingdom

19:34 Oct 11, 2013

Источник возможно фэнтази "Властители льдов" Романова М.?

Judith Hehir

United States

ASKER

Ice master also possible

19:25 Oct 11, 2013

Any ideas where it comes from, Mikhail? It is in quotes in the letter, as above.

Mikhail Kropotov

Germany

19:14 Oct 11, 2013

Lord of the Ice / Ice Lord perhaps?

Alexandra Schneeuhr

Cyprus

19:12 Oct 11, 2013

Oh, it definitely makes all the difference... but I guess i'd translate it pretty much verbatim anyway (?)

Judith Hehir

United States

ASKER

Thank you, Alexandra.

19:09 Oct 11, 2013

The only thing is that the letter was written in 1921, so I would think it's likely an allusion to something else.

Alexandra Schneeuhr

Cyprus

19:06 Oct 11, 2013

Sounds like a reference to a fantasy book / fantasy-inspired game. Something along the lines of http://www.stratege.ru/trophies/ps3/sorcery/new/master_of_ic... ?

Answers

56 mins confidence:

the Ice King

Explanation:
It may be from a cartoon, but I think there is a russian fairy tale that also has an Ice king -- I forgot which one.

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Note added at 58 mins (2013-10-11 19:37:52 GMT)
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Sorry Russian, and Ice King. (capital letters)

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_King

LilianNekipelov
United States
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Polish
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