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пиявка ложноконская малая (Nerpobdell atomaria)

English translation: dog leech (Erpobdella octoculata)

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Russian term or phrase:малая ложноконская пиявка
English translation:dog leech (Erpobdella octoculata)
Entered by: marfus

09:30 Aug 30, 2002
Russian to English translations [Non-PRO]
Science - Zoology / Zoology
Russian term or phrase: пиявка ложноконская малая (Nerpobdell atomaria)
Уважаемые коллеги, прошу ссылку на хороший сайт по лат.-рус.-англ. зоол. соответствиям
Alexander
dog leech
Explanation:
Erpobdella octoculata

...Dog leech" Erpobdella octoculata and the fish doesn’t mind getting fat eating these... (
www.algonet.se/~sjostran/English/10143.htm)


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Note added at 2002-08-30 10:03:22 (GMT)
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Now, I reckon I have some background points to explain. Here\'s the abridged story behind my answer, if you please:
The name Herpobdella atomaria seems to have long become obsolete. The scientific name of малая ложноконская пиявка, according to Фр.–рус.биол.словарь (М. 1985) (and this is one source to trust), is Herpobdella octoculata, whose generic name lost its first letter somewhere along the meandering taxonomic road, which is not at all unusual since over last few decades zoologists were trying to make latinized scientific names look more in line with their original Greek spelling. So... that’s more or les it.

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Note added at 2002-08-30 10:49:55 (GMT)
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NB: The name \"dog leech\" is rarely used, so you better put the sci.name in parenthesis after using the vernacular in your target text. =v=

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Note added at 2002-08-30 11:03:46 (GMT)
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совсем забыл о грустном: \"...ссылку на хороший сайт по лат.-рус.-англ. зоол. соответствиям\" -- НЕТ ТАКИХ В ПРИРОДЕ.
Good news: go http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=260240 for routine technique of dealing with common names of living organisms [at the bottom of the page]
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marfus
United States
Local time: 04:16
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Summary of answers provided
5 +8dog leech
marfus
5 +1Jack ...
Libero_Lang_Lab
1 +1Marfus мне друг, но истина дороже
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +8
dog leech


Explanation:
Erpobdella octoculata

...Dog leech" Erpobdella octoculata and the fish doesn’t mind getting fat eating these... (
www.algonet.se/~sjostran/English/10143.htm)


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Note added at 2002-08-30 10:03:22 (GMT)
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Now, I reckon I have some background points to explain. Here\'s the abridged story behind my answer, if you please:
The name Herpobdella atomaria seems to have long become obsolete. The scientific name of малая ложноконская пиявка, according to Фр.–рус.биол.словарь (М. 1985) (and this is one source to trust), is Herpobdella octoculata, whose generic name lost its first letter somewhere along the meandering taxonomic road, which is not at all unusual since over last few decades zoologists were trying to make latinized scientific names look more in line with their original Greek spelling. So... that’s more or les it.

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Note added at 2002-08-30 10:49:55 (GMT)
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NB: The name \"dog leech\" is rarely used, so you better put the sci.name in parenthesis after using the vernacular in your target text. =v=

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Note added at 2002-08-30 11:03:46 (GMT)
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совсем забыл о грустном: \"...ссылку на хороший сайт по лат.-рус.-англ. зоол. соответствиям\" -- НЕТ ТАКИХ В ПРИРОДЕ.
Good news: go http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&id=260240 for routine technique of dealing with common names of living organisms [at the bottom of the page]


    Reference: http://www.algonet.se/~sjostran/English/10143.htm
marfus
United States
Local time: 04:16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Libero_Lang_Lab: like I said.... you da man - now I know exactly who to call on all future leech-related matters
3 mins
  -> я да мэн да ты да мэн -- удалюсь-ка в свой domaine
agree  Burravoe Ltd: Thank you for a most erudite explanation
46 mins
  -> be my guest -- and I very much appreciate your praise
agree  Jack Doughty: Dan, "You're a better man than I am" is not Shakespeare, it's Rudyard Kipling ("Gunga Din").
1 hr
  -> well, all of you -- Jack Doughty, Dan Brennan, Bill Shakespeare, and Rudy Kipling are definitely better than I am... but I promise to exert my whatever off to grow across the board :-]
agree  Mark Vaintroub
1 hr
  -> Thank you
agree  AndreiG
5 hrs
  -> Thank you
agree  Yelena.
6 hrs
  -> Thank you
agree  Interpreter (X): Herpobdella (после всех моих мучений)
13 hrs
  -> in some sources, sure
agree  Oleg Pashuk (X)
4 days
  -> Thank you
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Jack ...


Explanation:
... whoops, you're absolutely right... Shakespeare must have got it from Kipling..;-)

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Note added at 2002-08-30 11:11:00 (GMT)
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PS - If this is an \'easy\' question, then it\'s definitely time for me to give up the day job. Come on native speakers - own up... how many of you knew that this little fella was a dog leech.

As Kipling once almost said... Methinks, Asker, thou dost request too much.

Libero_Lang_Lab
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:16
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  marfus: I'm also known to steal stuff from that author. He just drives people cleptomaniac.
4 mins
  -> I'm worse I steal and don't even give him the credit...;-)... it's kleptomanic BTW (from the greek)
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Marfus мне друг, но истина дороже


Explanation:
Я облазила свой биол. словарь и Гугл и что-то не нашла ничего хорошего. Вообще-то пиявки относятся к роду Huridinea. Nerpobdella встретилась только с одним видом: octoculata, и она-то и названа пиявкой малой ложноконской в единственной работе, которую можно откопать на Гугле:

пиявка малая ложноконская
(Nerpobdella octoculata)...
www.ecocoop.ru/hydro/messages/79.html

Т.е. получается, что кто-то неправ: либо ваш автор, либо этот, гугловский. Вид atomaria существует в названиях многих родов, например, листоед - один из них, но ваше сочетание рода и вида нигде не встречается. По-моему, надо уточнить у автора работы.



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Note added at 2002-08-30 22:38:23 (GMT)
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Уупс, вот нашла Herpobdella atomaria - совсем не пявка, а черт-те что. Всё, сдаюсь.
achtogige bloedegel of Gewone Nephelis – Herpobdella atomaria- : zwemt met een golvende beweging. Het lichaam is naar achter toe verbreed en eindigent met een grote zuignap; kop met 4 paar ogen; bruinachtig, soms met 2 rijen lichte puntjes. Voedt zich met wormen, kreeftjes, enz.

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Note added at 2002-08-30 22:52:13 (GMT)
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Оказалось, что правильное название - Herpobdella octoculata (у вас опечатка) и встречаются они в основном в стоячих водах. Упоминаются почему-то в основном на русскоязычных сайтах. На англоязычных идут как просто leeches. Так что, по-видимому, объяснение и перевод, предложенные Василием (marfus) правильное, а я зря встряла, но зато кое-что узнала. Уж извиняйте.


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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  marfus: у нас не опечатка, Совушка. Это вариант написания, нынче более принятый. Nerpobdella -- опечатка. Copy-n-paste capabilities proliferate and perpetuate misprints/misspellings -- all the more people are usually unaware of name origins or couldn't care less
2 hrs
  -> так я и не говорю, что у Вас, - я говорю, что у автора переводимого текста (и у немножко у меня в голове)
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