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nosilac

English translation: town planning consultant

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Serbo-Croat term or phrase:nosilac izrade plana
English translation:town planning consultant
Entered by: Mira Stepanovic

07:42 Sep 20, 2008
Serbo-Croat to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Construction / Civil Engineering
Serbo-Croat term or phrase: nosilac
Planska dokumenta može da izrađuje preduzeće, odnosno drugo pravno lice koje je upisano u odgovarajući registar za obavljanje poslova prostornog planiranja i izrade planskih dokumenata. (u daljem tekstu: nosilac izrade plana).

pretpostavljam da je misli na onog koji izrađuje plan?

pada mi na pamet "the plan developer", pošto će se stalno ponavljati u tekstu.
Bogdan Petrovic
Serbia
Local time: 19:45
town planning consultant
Explanation:
mada je pitanje nezgodno formulisano, u ovom slučaju možete da napišete 'appointed town planning consultant' - to bi bio nosilac izrade plana
consultant - 1. konsultant, savetnik; 2. projektna organizacija, nadzorna organizacija (preduzeće); ref. Građ. r. B. Vukičević

'consultant' je svako ovlašćeno preduzeće ili ustanova (ili pojedinac) koja se bavi bilo kojom granom projektovanja uključujući i urbano planiranje

http://www.touchdoncaster.com/business/search/typeId/2033/ty...
može se videti iz liste da se radi o firmama

http://www.irishbuildingindustry.ie/directory/planning-consu...
Planning, town planning, development services. Experts in the preparation of local and area plans & village plans in order to guide the development of residential, industrial and commercial areas; preparation of planning studies and plans on behalf of local authorities, including Strategic Development Zones and Action Area Plans Formulation of strategies for submissions to development zoning reviews and Development Plan reviews;



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Samo sam zaboravila da možete u daljem tekstu pisati samo "Consultant" uz napomenu na mestu gde vam se prvi put pojavljuje u tekstu: 'hereafter: the Consultant', to je uobičajeno.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-09-20 12:27:52 GMT)
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To su consulting engineers ili firms u zavisnosti od konteksta:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/consulting
acting as an adviser on professional matters: consulting engineers
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Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 19:45
Grading comment
Hvala!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3town planning consultant
Mira Stepanovic
5 +2planner
Ljiljana Krstic
Summary of reference entries provided
V&M Stanković

  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
town planning consultant


Explanation:
mada je pitanje nezgodno formulisano, u ovom slučaju možete da napišete 'appointed town planning consultant' - to bi bio nosilac izrade plana
consultant - 1. konsultant, savetnik; 2. projektna organizacija, nadzorna organizacija (preduzeće); ref. Građ. r. B. Vukičević

'consultant' je svako ovlašćeno preduzeće ili ustanova (ili pojedinac) koja se bavi bilo kojom granom projektovanja uključujući i urbano planiranje

http://www.touchdoncaster.com/business/search/typeId/2033/ty...
može se videti iz liste da se radi o firmama

http://www.irishbuildingindustry.ie/directory/planning-consu...
Planning, town planning, development services. Experts in the preparation of local and area plans & village plans in order to guide the development of residential, industrial and commercial areas; preparation of planning studies and plans on behalf of local authorities, including Strategic Development Zones and Action Area Plans Formulation of strategies for submissions to development zoning reviews and Development Plan reviews;



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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-09-20 12:13:49 GMT)
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Samo sam zaboravila da možete u daljem tekstu pisati samo "Consultant" uz napomenu na mestu gde vam se prvi put pojavljuje u tekstu: 'hereafter: the Consultant', to je uobičajeno.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-09-20 12:27:52 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

To su consulting engineers ili firms u zavisnosti od konteksta:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/consulting
acting as an adviser on professional matters: consulting engineers

Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 19:45
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 300
Grading comment
Hvala!
Notes to answerer
Asker: problem je što se u tekstu često javlja "consultant" kao konsultant?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sladjana Spaic: Vrlo dobro objasnjeno! Iz svakodnevne licne prakse, mogu da potvrdim da je to pravilan prevod! :)
3 mins
  -> Hvala Slađana!
agree  Natasa Djurovic: Tako je!
3 hrs
  -> Hvala Nataša!
agree  Larisa Djuvelek-Ruggiero (X)
4 hrs
neutral  Ljiljana Krstic: prostorno planiranje nije samo urbano, dakle 'town' je u navedenom kontekstu nepotrebna rec
6 hrs
  -> urbanističko planiranje = 'town planning' obuhvata izradu kako urbanističkih tako i prostornih planove što se jasno može videti na str. 2 ovde: http://www.arh.bg.ac.yu/upload/0708/Osnovne_akademske_studij...
neutral  V&M Stanković: ne radi se o urbanističkom (town), već o prostornom (spatial/physical) planiranju, a i konsultantske usluge imaju šire i najčešće drugo značenje, mada mogu imati i projektovanje kao deo aktivnosti - ali ne uvek, tj. to nije karakteristično
12 hrs
  -> moj odgovor se uopšte ne odnosi na konsultantske usluge, ono što je dodato posle 4 h je odg. na naknadno pitanje; a na linkovima se jasno vidi šta sve '(town) planning consultant' (preduzeće) radi - sva planska dokumenta
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
planner


Explanation:
Da, misli se na onoga ko je odgovoran za izradu plana. Ovo je najopstiji termin, ali mozete upotrebiti i svoj, kao i 'plan maker', 'plan designer' i sl.
Izaberite termin koji mozete koristiti u svim kontekstima, ako se stalno ponavlja

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ako je planning'=the act or process of making or carrying out plans; specif : the establishment of goals, policies, and procedures for a social or economic unit, vrsilac radnje=planner je 'nosilac izrade plana'

Example sentence(s):
  • E.J. is called the first Serbian town-planner

    Reference: http://www.urbel.com/documents/monografija-web2.pdf
Ljiljana Krstic
Serbia
Local time: 19:45
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mira Stepanovic: town planning = urbano planiranje, town planner - bi u vašem kontekstu bio arhitekta - urbanista; nosilac izrade plana je ovde organizacija ili institucija kojoj je povereno planiranje
7 mins
  -> moj odgovor nije 'town planner' vec 'planner' jer se odnosi na kontekst iz pitanja tj. svaki kontekst, i jer moze biti i pojedinacno lice i organizacija, koji ne samo izradjuju vec obavljaju sve poslove oko planiranja (videti Webster Dict..for Planning)
agree  Mihailolja
4 hrs
agree  TamaraP: moze da se doda Urban ispred Ref: http://archinect.com/jobs/description.php?id=77835_0_30_0_C2...
5 hrs
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Reference comments


13 hrs
Reference

Reference information:
To naše “nosilac izrade” je stvarno teško prevesti,ali mislim da bi u ovom slučaju moglo biti sasvim prihvatljivo to što ste i sami predložili, tj. “plan developer”. Da se radi o izvođenju (građevinskih) radova, onda bi to bio “prime/main/general contractor”


“Regulatory plan for the Dorcol Marina area completed
...
The group responsible for the plan's development is JUP Urbanistički zavod while the investor is the city's agency for construction.
...
Nosilac izrade plana je JUP Urbanistički zavod, a investitor grad Beograd –Direkcija za građevinsko zemljište i izgradnju.”
( http://beobuild.be.funpic.de/index.php?subaction=showcomment... )


“Amerige Heights Named Project of the Year by American Society of Civil Engineers, Orange County...
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has been named Project of the Year by the Orange County Branch of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE). The award was presented to the project's master plan developer, Irvine-based SunCal Companies, during an awards ceremony held February 19th at The Sutton Place Hotel in Newport Beach.”
( http://www.allbusiness.com/real-estate/commercial-residentia... )


Inače, šta su to prostorni planovi i urbanistički planovi i koje su razlike, može se videti iz sledećeg linka:

“Arhitektonski fakultet Univerziteta u Beogradu
...
- Prostorni planovi sadrže opštije kategorije kao što su:
􀂃 geografski položaj, meteorološke/ klimatske karakteristike, bonitet zemljišta;
􀂃 demografke karakteristike, mreža naselja; namena prostora;
􀂃 nivoekonomske razvijenosti, i dr.;

- Urbanistički planovi sadrže konkretnije kategorije kao što su:
􀂃 stanje izgradjenosti javnih, privatnih objekata;
􀂃 stanje izgradjenosti saobraćajne i komunalne infrastrukture;
􀂃 tipovi izgradjenosti; ambijentalne/spomeničke vrednosti;
􀂃 postojeća regulacionai nivelaciona rešenja (za planove nižeg reda)...“
( http://www.arh.bg.ac.yu/upload/tn/g3/Regulativa 1/Ia cas- PL... )

V&M Stanković
Serbia
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 116
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