diplomirani matematicar

03:42 Dec 30, 2009
Serbo-Croat to English translations [PRO]
Science - Mathematics & Statistics
Serbo-Croat term or phrase: diplomirani matematicar
diploma in bachelor of mathematioc sciences
diplomirani matematicar
RebeccaGoldmeier


Summary of answers provided
4 +1Bachelor of Science in Mathematics
Mira Stepanovic
5 -1graduate mathematician
V&M Stanković
3Bachelor of Science Degree - Mathematics
Milan Djukić


  

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Bachelor of Science Degree - Mathematics


Explanation:
Diplomirani matematičar, Univerzitet u Beogradu.
B.Sc. Bachelor of Science Degree - Mathematics, University of Belgrade.
http://www.megatrend-online.com/cv_prof_dr_veljko_spasic.pdf

Example sentence(s):
  • Мирјана Тасић, дипломирани математичар. Mirjana Tasic, B.Sc. Mathematics

    Reference: http://www.batut.org.rs/uploads/pub2005.pdf
Milan Djukić
Serbia
Local time: 14:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Serbian
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Bachelor of Science in Mathematics


Explanation:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....

or BSc in Mathematics:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org....

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"diplomirani" je akademska titula ("diplomirani" is an academic title):
http://arhiva.elitesecurity.org/t141193-Diplomirani-master-m...
1.) U tome pre sveg sto potencijalni poslodavci po inerciji u konkursima traze diplomirane strucnjake iako je u vecini slusajeva to potpuno nepotrebno. U slucaju kada u pitanju zvucna titula magistra vecina firmi, ustanova I radnih organizacija bi se zapitala da li su njima zaista potrebni takvi strucnjaci koje bi u kranjem slucaju morali i vise da placaju.
2.) U prevodu sa engleskog jezika znacenje titula je sledece:
Bachelor=diplomirani
Master=Magistar
Here is the translation of the previous text:
2.) Translated from English, the meaning of titles is as follows:
Bachelor=diplomirani
Master=Magistar

apv-nauka.ns.ac.yu/vece/dokumenti/kartoni/HAJDU%20Andrea.doc
Titula Diplomirani matematičar – matematika finansija

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Dear Rebecca, sorry that my answer came late. The translation I proposed is an official translaton of the academic title although the education system here is different than that in the western countries. Here is an explanation for "Bachelor of Mathematics":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Mathematics
A Bachelor of Mathematics is an undergraduate academic degree awarded for successfully completing a program of study in mathematics or related disciplines, such as computer science or statistics. The Bachelor of Mathematics degree is frequently abbreviated as B.Math or BMath.

Difference between the BMath and BSc/BS or BA

In practice, this is essentially equivalent to a Bachelor of Science or Bachelor of Arts degree with a specialty in mathematics. Relatively few institutions award Bachelor of Mathematics degrees, and the distinction between institutions which do award such degrees and those which award B.Sc or B.A. degrees for mathematics is usually one of university bureaucracy, rather than curriculum. However, schools who offer a Bachelor of Mathematics degree argue for a separate degree as the study of mathematics is vastly different from any branch in science or arts.

So, although BMath is not the official translation, basically there is only a slight difference between the two titles.


Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 14:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Dear Mira, I waited for an answer, and since it was very urgent I put "Bachelor of Mathematics". What is your opinion about that? P.S. Thank you for suggestions.


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agree  Larisa Zlatic, Ph.D.: definitely this one
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graduate mathematician


Explanation:

“Cambridge Consultants Ltd & Cambridge Consultants Inc.

Graduate Mathematician or Engineer
Main purpose of the job
To work on client assignments and provide key ideas for projects involving algorithm development and signal processing for radar, location systems and a wide variety of different sensor technologies and systems.”
( http://www.cambridgeconsultants.com/rc_jd536.html )


“Institute of Mathematics and its Applications, UK
Graduate Training Scheme

Many companies that employ graduates have training programmes to ensure that they develop and adapt their skills to further the aims and objectives of the organisation. If requested, the IMA will assess graduate training schemes in terms of their suitability for graduate mathematicians working towards chartered mathematician and chartered scientist status. Below is a list of requirements that such schemes should meet for IMA approval.”
( http://www.ima.org.uk/Professional/GTS.htm )


“Young Researchers in Mathematics

Welcome to the Young Researchers in Mathematics website. We exist to promote links between graduate mathematician communities at universities across the UK, and facilitate the organisation of conferences, workshops and social events for young mathematicians.”
( http://www.youngresearchersinmaths.org/ )


“House of Commons debates

Mr Julian Brazier (Canterbury)
- I am a graduate mathematician with two children who attend an excellent state primary school.”
( http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debate/?id=1995-12-13a.972.4 )


“Bryok Systems Limited, UK
Graduate Mathematician
- You are a talented graduate mathematician from a top university. In addition, you are:
ambitious and hungry to learn - passionate about quality and delivering results;
…”
( http://www.bryok.com/careers.html#GraduateMathematician )


“Marcus Brinkmann
Graduate mathematician (Germany, Dipl.-Math.)
Programmer at g10 Code
Free Software activist”
( http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/ )

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NOTE:
It is quite correct translation supported by number of the examples of the practical use. All other considerations regarding validation and equivalency (like: BSc, BA and so on) are exclusively within the competence of the country specific university or government agency/institution and absolutely out of authorization of the translator, even of sworn court interpreter. Besides, I could sign and confirm the a/m translation with the official court seal, as I’ve done for many hundreds of similar diplomas/titles translated in my 15-year career of the official Sworn Court Interpreter.

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Simply, it is not true that “BSc title was awarded (and still is) after completing any technical faculty in ex YU or in Serbia”, since the only title was in Serbo-Croatian language: “diplomirani inženjer”. In favor to that and to my translation (“graduate…”) here it is a very interesting excerpt from the Croatian Judges Web of the official instruction for court interpreters regarding university degrees translation (unfortunately, not available to download any more, this is the only part I’ve saved):
„Naglasili bi da kod prijevoda inozemne visokoškolske kvalifikacije sudski tumači nisu ni nadležni ni kompetentni samostalno interpretirati izvorno stečeni naziv naveden u kvalifikaciji i umjesto njega navoditi naziv (po njihovom mišljenju ekvivalentne) hrvatske kvalifikacije.
Spomenut ćemo kao primjer najčešće slučajeve kada se, zbog samostalne interpretacije sudskog tumača, npr. Bachelor degree sa stranog jezika prevodi s diplomiran...
... isto kao što se završetkom studija u Republici Hrvatskoj ne može steći titula naziva Bachelor of Arts budući da u Hrvatskoj ne postoji studij čijim se završetkom stječe takvo zvanje.“
(http://www.sudacka-mreza.hr/public/vt_faq.htm#prijevodi_inoz...


BTW, in the new Serbian Law on Higher Education (harmonized with Bologna process), it is clearly stated:
“U međunarodnom prometu i u diplomi na engleskom jeziku, naziv koji je steklo lice iz stava 1. ovog člana je bachelor, naziv koji je steklo lice iz stava 2. ovog člana je bachelor (appl.), naziv koji je steklo lice iz stava 5. ovog člana je master, a naziv koji je steklo lice iz stava 6. ovog člana je Ph. D., odnosno odgovarajući naziv na jeziku na koji se diploma prevodi.”
( http://www.parlament.gov.rs/content/lat/akta/akta_detalji.as... )

That means: bachelor, master and Ph. D. only, and again not BSc, BA, MSc, MA or something like this, and it applies only to students completed course of study in accordance with this new Law and the curricula.


I think it could be interesting also to see some other examples of “graduate…” and, more over, to read discussions in the following past KudoZ questions:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/croatian_to_english/certificates_d...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/serbian_to_english/engineering:_in...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/serbian_to_english/livestock_anima...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/serbian_to_english/education_pedag...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/bosnian_to_english/agriculture/153...
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_serbian/engineering_gen...

V&M Stanković
Serbia
Local time: 14:37
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mira Stepanovic: "Graduate mathematician" znači samo da je osoba diplomirala, tj. završila studije matematike a nije akademska titula što je slučaj sa "diplomirani matematičar"; to se može videti i iz primera koje ste naveli./Nije to - 'diplomirani' je akademska titula.
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  -> Upravo to - diplomiranjem se postaje „diplomirani...“, zar ne? Ovo je korektan PREVOD, a sve ostalo (BSc i sl) spada u nostrifikaciju/ekvivalenciju diplome - a za to su ovlašćeni isključivo ili univerziteti ili državne ustanove (kako gde), a ne prevodioci
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