casa troncal

English translation: stem family

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Spanish term or phrase:casa troncal
English translation:stem family
Entered by: Robert Forstag

10:53 Mar 16, 2011
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Anthropology / Navarre: 18th century
Spanish term or phrase: casa troncal
Esta casa troncal ha producido muchas ramas, de que
son representantes los señores del grupo siguiente: (followed by list of names)

Thank you.
Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 15:55
stem family
Explanation:
Without more context, this is only a suggestion. I am ussuming that "casa" here means "family" or "lineage". Your problem is how to work all these stems, branches, trunks and roots into a readable sentence! Research: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.
Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
Also proz: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.

Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
also: http://books.google.es/books?id=9iMZuJfVwp0C&pg=PA242&lpg=PA...
Selected response from:

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 21:55
Grading comment
This would seem to be the best fit here. Thanks, Jenni. And thanks to everyone else who responded and commented.
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Summary of answers provided
3 +1root (family)
MJ Barber
3 +1stem family
Jenni Lukac (X)
4family tree
Muriel Vasconcellos
3core family
Noni Gilbert Riley
3(main) ancestral estate
Simon Bruni
3"ancestors' home"
Rosmu
3stem household
liz askew


Discussion entries: 2





  

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core family


Explanation:
Don't know if there is a standard term, but here's an idea.

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Main family, perhaps

Noni Gilbert Riley
Spain
Local time: 21:55
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
root (family)


Explanation:
Term used a lot in genealogy.

In somewhat isolation and comfort of the mountainous region Alavians, with fair ease, assimilated into the local Georgian peasantry by adapting local customs, religious practices, and changing their name yet aggain adding suffix dze/ძე (Georgian for son/descendent of) to the root family name Alavid and thus becoming Alavidze.

The Wales Phillips family is the founding root family of the Massachusetts Phillips and New Jersey families.

Many more like that.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alavidze
    Reference: http://www.heritageregistry.net/pictorial/pix.phillips.surna...
MJ Barber
Spain
Local time: 21:55
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Noni Gilbert Riley: Sounds more like it!
1 hr
  -> thanks :D, although the challenge then is to word it so the branches don't grow directly out of the root :D
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(main) ancestral estate


Explanation:
My feeling is that this relates to "bienes troncales", defined by the RAE as:

1. m. pl. Der. Los patrimoniales que, muerto el poseedor sin posteridad, en vez de pasar al heredero regular, vuelven, por ministerio de la ley, a la línea, tronco o raíz de donde vinieron.

Cheers
Simon

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:55
Specializes in field
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
stem family


Explanation:
Without more context, this is only a suggestion. I am ussuming that "casa" here means "family" or "lineage". Your problem is how to work all these stems, branches, trunks and roots into a readable sentence! Research: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.
Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
Also proz: Domestic Unit. The family remains the basic social unit, more important than the individual, despite the accelerated evolution of Andorran society. Most enterprises and business are organized through the family, distributing functions according to capacities and the level of study of each member. These family groups, following the institution of the familia troncal (stem family), incorporate a married pair and their children.

Read more: Culture of Andorra - traditional, history, clothing, traditions, women, beliefs, food, customs, family http://www.everyculture.com/A-Bo/Andorra.html#ixzz1GlBssh6D
also: http://books.google.es/books?id=9iMZuJfVwp0C&pg=PA242&lpg=PA...

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 21:55
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
This would seem to be the best fit here. Thanks, Jenni. And thanks to everyone else who responded and commented.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew: Indeed. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:oYe9-wAi-I0J:www2....
10 hrs
  -> Thanks very much, Liz. The reference is brilliant!
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
"ancestors' home"


Explanation:
From this ancestors’ home come the descendants of the different family branches who are represented by the following group of people:

Rosmu
Spain
Local time: 21:55
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
family tree


Explanation:
Why not? It goes with "ramas".

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 12:55
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
stem household


Explanation:
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Extended Families - Extended Family Kinship - Cohabitation, Theory ...
The stem household form, made up of at least two generations of related nuclear families, is sometimes considered a class by itself. Stem family households ...
family.jrank.org/.../Extended-Families-Extended-Family-Kinship.html - Cached - Similar

Comparative household morphology of stem, joint, and nuclear ...
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his stem household counterpart. Since each nuclear household is created .... household systems are fundamentally different. In the stem household sys- ...
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The Stem Family in Ireland

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Developments in household patterns in three towns in Navarre ...
by JJ Sánchez-Barricarte - 2002 - Related articles
21 Aug 2002 ... In a study of the Navarrese household in the late 18th century, .... Thus, in the mountains and the central region, the stem family and ...
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liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:55
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7
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