tirando a batería embocar la tronera
English translation: firing in battery formation [shots cannot] enter the mouth of the embrasure
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peer agreement (net): +2firing in battery formation [shots cannot] enter the mouth of the embrasure Explanation: Or maybe "attacking in battery formation [one cannot] fire into the mouth of the embrasure". This makes a lot more sense, to me at least, with the aid of the following source, a book called Ingenieros del Renacimiento. On p. 40 it refers to this precise quotation, from Pedro Luis Escrivá's Apología en excusación y favor de las fábricas del Reino de Nápoles (1538), with the aid of illustrations, which are extremely helpful (see the foot of this page). The crucial one is the plan view in the middle, which interprets "tirando a batería" as artillery firing directly at the wall at a perpendicular angle, and "tirando a embocar" as firing from the side. There is also a picture illustrating the kind of embrasures Escrivá proposes, which are angled or slanted sideways. http://issuu.com/juaneloturriano/docs/ingenieros_del_renacim... "Batería" meant "el agregado de algunas piezas de artillería puestas en la forma conveniente, para batir alguna parte de la fortificación de una Plaza" (1st RAE dictionary, 1726). So it applies to an artillery formation for attacking a fortress or stronghold. It's "battery" in English, which can mean a group of artillery pieces and/or a fortified emplacement for them: "Historically the term "battery" referred to a cluster of cannon in action as a group, either in a temporary field position during a battle or at the siege of a fortress or a city." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_battery "Embocar", according to the same dictionary, meant "entrar por la boca de alguna cosa", or pot a ball in billiards or similar games ("passar la bola por las troneras o por el aro"), and more generally "entrar por alguna parte estrecha". It's pretty clear, and the illustration in the book I cited confirms it, that it means firing so that a shot enters throught the embrasure, the opening of which is made as narrow as possible for defensive purposes. So then I think Escrivá's point is that with this sort of angled embrasure you can't fire a shot into the opening when you're attacking with an artillery battery. You could only do so when firing from the side, in which case you can't form a battery. I would suggest "in battery formation" for "a batería". -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 hrs (2016-01-30 15:45:51 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- To avoid confusion, the relevant illustrations are at the foot of page 41 of the book, not page 40. |
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