mexcalpique

English translation: Chapultepec splitfin

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Spanish term or phrase:mexcalpique
English translation:Chapultepec splitfin
Entered by: Heidi C

18:35 Oct 4, 2005
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Zoology / animals native to Mexico
Spanish term or phrase: mexcalpique
Thanks for the help...

Con la finalidad de restablecer el equilibrio y la salud ambiental del Bosque de Chapultepec se instrumentaron acciones para favorecer la presencia de especies zoológicas nativas, endémicas y en peligro de extinción, como el gorrión mexicano, el axolote, el acocil, el ***mexcalpique*** y el cacomixtle, además de aves migratorias entre las que se encuentran patos silvestres y garzas.
Pantoglot
Colombia
Local time: 19:24
Chapultepec splitfin or mexcalpique
Explanation:
viendo el texto completo, yo trataría de mantener todos los nombres españolizados del náhuatl: todas son especies endémicas. (axolotl, acocil crayfish, ...)

TAmbién, así el texto fluye, no te atoras en nombres científicos, y no corres el peligro de usar un nombre que se refiera a otra cosa.

Si metes el nombre científico, te complicas la existencia: para empezar hay diferentes nombres, a veces te remiten a algo diferente, y finalmente cambias el nivel de lengua del texto.

I found this option at http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/goodeida/girardin/gvi...
Girardinichthys viviparus
Chapultepec splitfin / mexcalpique
GOODEIDAE - splitfins

I like it because it stresses that it is from Chapultepec, and avoids using **Girardinichthys viviparus**. I would also leave mexcalpique, as it is an endemic species and this preserves also the name coming from nahuatl.



otros textos en inglés que lo mencionan:

Breeding the Sailfin Goodeid - Girardinichthys viviparus. by Rich Serva.
Girardinichthys viviparus is a goodeid that comes from the canals and lakes on the ...
www.gaas-fish.net/ttopics/ 2001/girardinichthys_viviparus.htm

I sampled a small lake in Chapultepec Park in Mexico City for Girardinichthys viviparus. This goodeid is endemic to the Valle de México, the endorheic (no natural outlet) basin where Mexico City is located. Girardinichthys viviparus is critically endangered, and is currently known from only three areas, the lakes of Chapultepec Park, Lago de Xochimilco, located on the southern edge of Mexico City, and a small spring tributary to the Río Tula in the adjacent state of Hidalgo, north of the Valle de México.
http://www.afae.it/pages/tematica/articoligoodeidi/goodeid_s...

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Heidi C
Local time: 20:24
Grading comment
Very helpful. Thanks to all.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3Chapultepec splitfin or mexcalpique
Heidi C
5 +2black sailfin goodeid (Girardinichthys viviparus)
Michele Fauble
4Darkedged splitfin
Daniel Coria
3 +1splitfin
April Jo Perez
3Striped Goodea
Mercedes González


  

Answers


12 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Darkedged splitfin


Explanation:
Species Summary
Girardinichthys multiradiatus Darkedged splitfin, You can sponsor this page, ...
www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=6238

North American Freshwater Fish
This is a taxonomically structured index to TNHC Fish WWW images, ... Girardinichthys multiradiatus (Meek) - darkedged splitfin / mexcalpique de Alto Lerma ...
www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/naindex.html

Kinds of Fish
Girardinichthys multiradiatus (Meek, 1904), Darkedged splitfin. Girardinichthys viviparus (Bustamente, 1837). Goodea atripinnis Jordan, 1880 ...
www.discoverlife.org/nh/id/tmp/20q/html/Fish/Goodeidae.html

Hope it helps!

Daniel Coria
Argentina
Local time: 21:24
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrés Martínez: Creo que Michele y Heidi tienen razón sobre la especie de pez y el nombre que debe recibir. Lamento el error. Un saludo.
5 mins
  -> Muchas gracias, Urico... | No hay absolutamente nada de qué lamentarse; entre otras cosas, estamos aquí para aprender también... Saludos, Urico!

neutral  Michele Fauble: Distribution: upper Rio Lerma and Zempoala lagoon in Morelos, Mexico.// Yes, but the distribution of most fish species is more restricted. The 'mexcalpique' in Chapultepec is 'Girardinichthys viviparus', not ' Girardinichthys multiradiatus.
3 hrs
  -> Hi Michele; isn't the mexcalpique from Mexico? / Now I understand. Thanks for the info, Michele, and always a pleasure!
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
splitfin


Explanation:
It seems that there are several diffent varieties of splitfin.

from http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/naindex.html

GOODEIDAE - splitfins

Allodontichthys hubbsi Miller & Uyeno - whitepatched splitfin / mexcal pique de Tuxpan -
Allodontichthys polylepis Rauchenberger - finescale splitfin / mexcalpique de escama -
Allodontichthys tamazulae Tumer - peppered splitfin / mexcalpique de Tamazula - |P|
Allodontichthys zonistius (Hubbs) - bandfin splitfin / mexcalpique de Armeria -


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Note added at 13 mins (2005-10-04 18:48:55 GMT)
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Sorry, I meant to type "different" varieties.



    Reference: http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/naindex.html
April Jo Perez
Local time: 18:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Michele Fauble: None of these species even belong to the same genus. The 'mexcalpique' in Chapultepec is 'Girardinichthys viviparus', 'black sailfin goodeid'. /'Mexcalpique (splitfin)' could refer to any number of species.
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Michele, I didnt know which species, so chose a middle of the road answer. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. :)

agree  Muriel Vasconcellos: I think this is the safest answer, because you don't know the species.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you Muriel.

agree  David Brown: mexcalpique (splitfin) would be how I would translate it
11 hrs
  -> Thank you David.
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Striped Goodea


Explanation:
This is a translation I found. Hope it helps!

http://www.goodeiden.de/html/multiradiatus3.html
www.aquariumsite.org/familylink.cfm?family=463

Mercedes González
Argentina
Local time: 21:24
Native speaker of: Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Michele Fauble: Striped Goodea, Golden Sailfin Goodeid, but based on distribution, the 'mexcalpique' in Chapultepec is 'Girardinichthys viviparus', not ' Girardinichthys multiradiatus'.
4 hrs
  -> Thank you!
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Chapultepec splitfin or mexcalpique


Explanation:
viendo el texto completo, yo trataría de mantener todos los nombres españolizados del náhuatl: todas son especies endémicas. (axolotl, acocil crayfish, ...)

TAmbién, así el texto fluye, no te atoras en nombres científicos, y no corres el peligro de usar un nombre que se refiera a otra cosa.

Si metes el nombre científico, te complicas la existencia: para empezar hay diferentes nombres, a veces te remiten a algo diferente, y finalmente cambias el nivel de lengua del texto.

I found this option at http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/goodeida/girardin/gvi...
Girardinichthys viviparus
Chapultepec splitfin / mexcalpique
GOODEIDAE - splitfins

I like it because it stresses that it is from Chapultepec, and avoids using **Girardinichthys viviparus**. I would also leave mexcalpique, as it is an endemic species and this preserves also the name coming from nahuatl.



otros textos en inglés que lo mencionan:

Breeding the Sailfin Goodeid - Girardinichthys viviparus. by Rich Serva.
Girardinichthys viviparus is a goodeid that comes from the canals and lakes on the ...
www.gaas-fish.net/ttopics/ 2001/girardinichthys_viviparus.htm

I sampled a small lake in Chapultepec Park in Mexico City for Girardinichthys viviparus. This goodeid is endemic to the Valle de México, the endorheic (no natural outlet) basin where Mexico City is located. Girardinichthys viviparus is critically endangered, and is currently known from only three areas, the lakes of Chapultepec Park, Lago de Xochimilco, located on the southern edge of Mexico City, and a small spring tributary to the Río Tula in the adjacent state of Hidalgo, north of the Valle de México.
http://www.afae.it/pages/tematica/articoligoodeidi/goodeid_s...



Heidi C
Local time: 20:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Very helpful. Thanks to all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michele Fauble: Yes, probably 'Girardinichthys viviparus' rather than 'Girardinichthys multiradiatus' (based on distribution).//Although I think 'Chapultepec splitfin' is an excellent name, 'Girardinichthys viviparus' is commonly called 'black sailfin goodeid' in English
15 mins
  -> Thanks Michele :) I liked that option, which includes a photograph of the male and female. the page is written in English by a researcher, so it seems a nice option so it will not be confused with any old sailfin :)

agree  Andrés Martínez
9 hrs
  -> gracias Urico :)

agree  Daniel Coria
13 hrs
  -> Gracias Daniel, nos encontramos de nuevo :)
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
black sailfin goodeid (Girardinichthys viviparus)


Explanation:
Based on the distribution, this is the fish that is found in Chapultepec.

Girardinichthys viviparus, mexcalpique, Amenazada. ... IX: An update to The Husbandry of The Black Sailfin Goodeid, Girardinichthys viviparus ". ... ...
fish.mongabay.net/G/Girardinichthys_viviparus.shtml

The Sailfin Goodeid - Girardinichthys viviparus by Rich . ... Maravatio,
Mexiko Girardinichthys viviparus, Chapultepec Park, Mexiko City ... ...
fish.mongabay.net/G/Girardinichthys_multiradiatus.shtml

Black Sailfin Goodeid / Amarillo. Family: Goodeidae JORDAN, in 1923. ...
Girardinichthys viviparus was the first species of the family of Goodeids to be ...
www.goodeiden.de/html/viviparus3.html

Girardinichthys viviparus, Mexclapique, endemic
www.mongabay.com/fish/data/Mexico.htm



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Note added at 4 hrs 41 mins (2005-10-04 23:17:11 GMT)
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Based on the distribution, this is the fish called 'mexcalpique' that is found in Chapultepec.


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Note added at 11 hrs 44 mins (2005-10-05 06:19:51 GMT)
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Girardinichthys viviparous, commonly known as
the Black Sailfin Goodeid, is rare and severely endangered. ...
beginnersworld.com/Pets/Aquatic/The-Black-Sailfin-Goodeid.html

Black Sailfin Goodeid Girardinichthys Viviparous by Chase Klinesteker, SWMAS; from SWAM, March / April 2004 Issue ...
www.swmas.org/swam/articles/girardinichthys_viviparous-klin...



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Note added at 11 hrs 50 mins (2005-10-05 06:26:08 GMT)
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Girardinichthys viviparous, commonly known as the Black Sailfin Goodeid, is rare and severely endangered. Mexico City is built on its limited habitat.
www.swmas.org/swam/articles/girardinichthys_viviparous-klin...



Michele Fauble
United States
Local time: 17:24
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rachel Fell: and here ( pics.!) called the Chapultepec splitfin http://www.tmm.utexas.edu/tnhc/fish/na/goodeida/girardin/gvi...\Have just seen Heidi's already given this link
9 hrs
  -> thanks

agree  Daniel Coria
12 hrs
  -> thanks
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