tjänstevikt

English translation: service weight

15:47 Nov 7, 2016

Swedish to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Automotive / Cars & Trucks / Swedish Transport Agency

Swedish term or phrase: tjänstevikt

kerb weight, suggest the glossaries here on Proz; entries made by reliable translators, as far as my understanding goes...

But in Directive 2001/85/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 20 November 2001 (...) amending Directives 70/156/EEC and 97/27/EC, I read:

fordonets tjänstevikt: den vikt som definieras i punkt 2.5 i bilaga I till direktiv 97/27/EG.

Over to the English version: "mass of the vehicle in running order" means the mass defined in section 2.5 of Annex I to Directive 97/27/EC;

Back in '97, that directive read:
2.5 fordonets massa i körklart skick: det olastade fordonets massa med karosseri - och med kopplingsanordning om det rör sig om ett dragfordon - i körklart skick eller chassits massa med hytt om tillverkaren inte monterar karosseriet och/eller kopplingsanordningen (inklusive kylvätska, oljor, 90 % bränsle, 100 % andra vätskor med undantag för spillvatten, verktyg, reservhjul och förare [75 kg], och, för linje- och turistbussar, massan av en extraförare [75 kg] om fordonet är utrustat med ett säte för en sådan).
Or, in English:
'Mass of the vehicle in running order` means the mass of the unladen vehicle with bodywork, and with coupling device in the case of a towing vehicle, in running order, or the mass of the chassis with cab if the manufacturer does not fit the bodywork and/or coupling device (including coolant, oils, 90 % fuel, 100 % other liquids except used waters, tools, spare wheel and driver (75 kg), and, for buses and coaches, the mass of the crew member (75 kg) if there is a crew seat in the vehicle).

Not sure who to trust...

kerb weight sounds slick, but is it correct?

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English translation:service weight

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Deane Goltermann

Sweden

Sorry,

18:35 Nov 7, 2016

But it doesn't seem that important. If this were a legal text you might have to dig deeper. But service weight should do, I'd say. putting in my vote...

m_a_a_

Greece

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Was that to further obscure matters?

17:39 Nov 7, 2016

So the Swedes are using a literal translation of "service weight" (or "kerb weight") to refer to something else?

...I'm getting a bit suspicious as my time-consuming cross-checking of references continues...

P.S. I'm translating a Registreringsbevis along with a couple of other related documents... to Greek.

Deane Goltermann

Sweden

This defines

17:18 Nov 7, 2016

'service weight' and differentiates from 'total weight'. Maybe you can find the Swe version. I'd have to do some more reading to answer whether 'weight' is used in terms of what the road bears and mass refers to the vehicle as a product. Just a feeling I'm getting, but duty calls me to 'interpretation of treaties in international law...
http://www.transportoversize.eu/files/Main/strategy/Oversize...

What's your doc about?

m_a_a_

Greece

ASKER

True indeed

17:05 Nov 7, 2016

As for kerb weight, it seems to be surprisingly faulty, since it does not -according to Wikipedia - include either passengers or cargo, unless Transportstyrelsen makes a distinction of their own between "fordonets massa i körklart skick" and "tjänstevikt", that eludes the EU's translators...

Deane Goltermann

Sweden

All 'rendering'

16:53 Nov 7, 2016

in the EU is from Eng (FR or GER) to the other countries... so the 'official' version is likely the Eng. This naturally leads to some anomalies when going back and forth. Our lot is a hard one...;-)

m_a_a_

Greece

ASKER

16:43 Nov 7, 2016

Is it?
Of what I have referred to, only the Swedish phraseology has undergone some minor changes... Still, both "fordonets massa i körklart skick" ('97) and "tjänstevikt" ('01) are rendered "mass of the vehicle in running order"...

Deane Goltermann

Sweden

One immediate hint

16:38 Nov 7, 2016

If the EU Directive is superseded by a newer one...the old one doesn't apply. You gotta follow the chain to the most recent version.

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service weight

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How about "service weight"

Charlesp
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Reference: mass

Reference information:
The EU seems to like the term 'mass' (http://www.transportpolicy.net/index.php?title=EU:_Vehicle_D...
The Trasportstyrelsen (in their translated pages) seems to use 'weight'. I'd tend to use the EU terms and try to tell the Swedes to get compliant, especially if your text is referring to EU docs. . But a lot depends on who your customer is.

Deane Goltermann
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