papperskvarn

11:02 Aug 25, 2018 

I don't know your name, but my name is Anna, not Anne.

11:01 Aug 25, 2018 

Thanks for your latest remarks and delving into this so deeply to help me out.
It's really appreciated
SafeTex

10:56 Aug 25, 2018 

I originally thought it might be a printers "logo" (trademark) of a "paper mill" that appeared on the bible. Printers often do this. Think "Penguin" please.

On this point of cultural knowledge, please note that Anders originally thought that "papperskvarn" = bureaucracy in this context (backed by Tim) and was not to be confused with a "pappersbruk". (note the subtle difference here in Swedish)

Now Anders in his latest remark thinks it's indeed a "paper mill" in Stockholm owned by Gustav.

Agneta had already noted both possibilities in her comment and finished her post with "What the author means is anybody's guess, though."

For all these reasons, I don't think your remark "A bit of knowledge of Swedish history is essential here and is easily found on line" is particularly fair.

As I said before, it's a potted history over 1, 000 years and covers a wide range of subjects.

I don't profess to be the best translator in the world nor great at Swedish history but I'm putting in all this effort and time to get two words right for around 0.14 centimes!!!

Yet again, I wish to underline that I do appreciate all the help I'm getting but this text is more than vague at times

Regards

10:41 Aug 25, 2018 

... and no, the paper mill would not be on the bible. Just switch the "X and Y" around so it reads "Y and X" instead. Gustav Vasa got the printing industry going with a paper mill in Stockholm and a bible carrying his name.

10:34 Aug 25, 2018 

As it turns out that Gustav Vasa actually did establish a paper mill in Stockholm and SAOB does give a paper mill definition to "papperskvarn", I guess my initial position on bureaucracy was wrong in this case. Though that is what it means in modern every day use. What clinches the deal is that the text says the "papperskvarn" was in Stockholm, if it had meant bureaucracy, it would not have pinpointed to Stockholm, but been "in sweden/kingdom/country" or something wider.
It's a bit funny though, as this is the first time I encountered "X-kvarn" as a producer of X. In swedish X/kvarn so far in all uses I have seen means the "kvarn" grinds X. (e.g. pepparkvarn, köttkvarn, avfallskvarn). So logically a "papperskvarn", in the physical sense, ought to be a paper shredder.
In modern swedish a paper mill is called "pappersbruk".
SAOB gives examples of "papperskvarn" in the meaning of paper mill from 1565 up until 1929. The first example of the modern meaning of bureaucracy is from 1910.
So, when all is said and done, I switch my position to paper mill.
That said, it was a sneaky one.

10:07 Aug 25, 2018 

I don't understand what you mean with "a paper mill on the bible". As Tim pointed out, the bible is one thing, the paper mill is another. The bible carried the king's name, but it most certainly did not carry a paper mill. However, the king gave order that a paper mill be built, as Agneta said, at Norrström.
A bit of knowledge of Swedish history is essential here and is easily found on line:
"Sedan konsten att trycka med lösa typer uppfunnits på 1400-talet ökade papperskonsumtionen snabbt. I Norden började man importera papper först vid mitten av 1300-talet och det skulle dröja över 200 år innan den svenska tillverkningen kunde börja med en s.k. papperskvarn, som Gustav Vasa gett tillstånd att bygga i Norrström i Stockholm och vars verksamhet startade 1560".
From a potted history of paper at https://www.skogen.se/glossary/papper
The translation papper = paper + kvarn = mill

09:28 Aug 25, 2018 

Thanks for that input but I'd honestly got that. The question was about "papperskvarn" which does not seem to be a "papermill" on the bible but "bureaucracy" in Stockholm.

04:19 Aug 25, 2018 

Gustav Vasa's Swedish language bible was mandatory for use in all churches - no more Latin after the reformation - so there was a great need for new bibles being printed and thus a great need for paper being manufactured.

14:47 Aug 24, 2018 

Gustav Vasa did set up a paper mill (pappersbruk, but also papperskvarn, especially about paper made from textile waste), in Stockholm, on Norrström.

What the author means is anybody's guess, though.

12:47 Aug 24, 2018 

Thanks.

12:20 Aug 24, 2018 

The Bible referred to and the "papperskvarn" are separate things, I believe:

(1) den normbildande svenskspråkiga bibel som bar hans namn
(2) en papperskvarn i Stockholm

I'm inclined to think Anders is correct (below) about "papperskvarn" being a bureaucracy. The usual term for a paper mill in Swedish is "pappersbruk."