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Entreprenörens underentreprenörentreprenörer

English translation: The contractor's subcontractor and his possible subcontractor(s) (the contractor's subcontractor's subcontractor(s))

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Swedish term or phrase:Entreprenörens underentreprenörentreprenörer
English translation:The contractor's subcontractor and his possible subcontractor(s) (the contractor's subcontractor's subcontractor(s))
Entered by: Åsa Schoening

18:14 Mar 31, 2011
Swedish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Law: Contract(s) / Lokalvård och FM Tjänst
Swedish term or phrase: Entreprenörens underentreprenörentreprenörer
Entreprenören ansvarar även för att varken Entreprenören eller någon av Entreprenörens underentreprenörentreprenörer utan Beställarens skriftliga medgivande annonserar, publicerar eller på annat sätt tillkännager uppgift om valet av Entreprenören eller någon av Entreprenörens underentreprenörentreprenörer, eller om villkoren i detta Avtal eller order som tecknats enligt detta Avtal, förutom där åtaganden enligt ovan är i konflikt med i för detta Avtal tvingade lag eller bestämmelse.

Since this term appears twice in the paragraph, I'm thinking it's not a typo. I assume is long-hand for the Contractor's subcontractors.
David Rumsey
Canada
Local time: 22:08
The contractor's subcontractors' subcontractors
Explanation:
I agree with Thomas Johansson (see discussion). This is not a typo; rather, "under" is implied in the last part of the term, as this refers to a chain of one contractor and multiple subcontractors, i.e. a contractor who contracts out the task to at least one subcontractor, who in turn contracts out the task to one or several subcontractors. There is obviously only one "entreprenör" and all the others are "underentreprenörer." Hence, it should actually be "entreprenörens underentreprenörsunderentreprenör(er)." A better way of writing this to properly identify the chain would be "entreprenörens underentreprenör samt dennes eventuella underentreprenörer." Example from link below:

5.2.5 Vem ansvarar för vem i kedjan?

När en entreprenör lägger ut arbete på någon annan är entreprenören fortfarande solidariskt ansvarig för de personalskatter och avgifter som underentreprenören ska betala i samband med det arbete som lagts ut på honom. Underentreprenören i sin tur kan lägga ut arbetet eller en del därav på någon annan underentreprenör.

(Depending on whether the contractor enlists one or two subcontractors, the correct term would be either "the contractor's subcontractor's subcontractors" or "the contractor's subcontractors' subcontractors." I'd be inclined to use the latter, since the Swedish ends with a plural.)
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Åsa Schoening
United States
Local time: 01:08
Grading comment
After conferring with the client, Asa is correct. Although in standard english these "sub-subcontractors" could all be categorized as "subcontractors", the client wanted to make the distinction clear. They are making an agreement with one contractors, who may work with a subcontractor, who may work with another subcontractor (who could work with another subcontractor...but that's another story ;-) Where does it end? ... in court...

Tu
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2the contractor's subcontractors
Nils Andersson
4 -1The contractor's subcontractors' subcontractors
Åsa Schoening


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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
the contractor's subcontractors


Explanation:
It starts out more verbose than it needs to be.
However, the meaning is quite straightforward.

As usual, it is best to keep it simple.

Nils Andersson
United States
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 19

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sven Petersson
14 hrs
agree  Christopher Schröder: clearly a typo
15 hrs
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
The contractor's subcontractors' subcontractors


Explanation:
I agree with Thomas Johansson (see discussion). This is not a typo; rather, "under" is implied in the last part of the term, as this refers to a chain of one contractor and multiple subcontractors, i.e. a contractor who contracts out the task to at least one subcontractor, who in turn contracts out the task to one or several subcontractors. There is obviously only one "entreprenör" and all the others are "underentreprenörer." Hence, it should actually be "entreprenörens underentreprenörsunderentreprenör(er)." A better way of writing this to properly identify the chain would be "entreprenörens underentreprenör samt dennes eventuella underentreprenörer." Example from link below:

5.2.5 Vem ansvarar för vem i kedjan?

När en entreprenör lägger ut arbete på någon annan är entreprenören fortfarande solidariskt ansvarig för de personalskatter och avgifter som underentreprenören ska betala i samband med det arbete som lagts ut på honom. Underentreprenören i sin tur kan lägga ut arbetet eller en del därav på någon annan underentreprenör.

(Depending on whether the contractor enlists one or two subcontractors, the correct term would be either "the contractor's subcontractor's subcontractors" or "the contractor's subcontractors' subcontractors." I'd be inclined to use the latter, since the Swedish ends with a plural.)


    Reference: http://www.skatteverket.se/omskatteverket/omoss/rapporter/ra...
Åsa Schoening
United States
Local time: 01:08
Works in field
Native speaker of: Swedish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
After conferring with the client, Asa is correct. Although in standard english these "sub-subcontractors" could all be categorized as "subcontractors", the client wanted to make the distinction clear. They are making an agreement with one contractors, who may work with a subcontractor, who may work with another subcontractor (who could work with another subcontractor...but that's another story ;-) Where does it end? ... in court...

Tu

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Christopher Schröder: What then of the contractor's subcontractors? Why aren't they listed? Doesn't make sense to me :-)
2 days 17 hrs
  -> Only the asker would know if they are covered elsewhere in text. If not, then "the contractor's subcontractor and his possible subcontractor(s)" would be preferable, as would "entreprenörens underentreprenör samt dennes eventuella underentreprenör(er)"
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