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katsayı tartışmaları

English translation: coefficient system discussions

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Turkish term or phrase:katsayı tartışmaları
English translation:coefficient system discussions
Entered by: SeiTT

17:37 Nov 27, 2009
Turkish to English translations [PRO]
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Turkish term or phrase: katsayı tartışmaları
Greetings,

During the discussion about whether İmam Hatip pupils should be eligible for university (have I understood that rightly?), the phrase “katsayı tartışmaları” came up on the screen.

All the best, and many thanks,

Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:34
coefficient system discussions
Explanation:
In Turkey, a coefficient system is used to calculate the scores of the high school graduates for the university admission exam.

Example:

Civil society denounces court decision on coefficient system
A Council of State ruling calling for a stay on the abolishment of a system that uses a lower coefficient to calculate the scores of graduates of vocational high schools on Turkey's university admission exam has drawn the ire of civil society organizations, which termed the ruling “unlawful.”

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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-11-28 16:34:08 GMT)
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You're welcome.

Regular high school students have their exam points multiplied by, let's say (I don't know the exact coefficients), 0,8 for their final results whereas Imam Hatip students -and the students of other vocational schools- have theirs multiplied rather by 0,3. Therefore, the regular high school students achieve a higher final result than the İmam Hatip students who have exactly the same university admission exam score; so this is a disadvantageous condition for Imam Hatip students.

http://www.meteoman.net/tag/imamhatip-liselerinde-katsayi-fa...

http://www.meteoman.net/tag/imamhatip-liselerinde-katsayi-fa...

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Note added at 23 hrs (2009-11-28 16:37:34 GMT)
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The idea in revoking this coefficient practice is to eliminate this unfair scoring system.
Selected response from:

Bee Baran
Australia
Local time: 03:34
Grading comment
many thanks very good indeed
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +3coefficient/multiplier debates
Erkan Dogan
5 +3coefficient system discussions
Bee Baran
5polemics on score calculation formula
Ali Bayraktar
4The controversy over coefficients
Tim Drayton


  

Answers


15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
coefficient/multiplier debates


Explanation:
It is talking about the multiplier that is apparently different for İmam Hatip and other schools.

Erkan Dogan
United States
Local time: 12:34
Native speaker of: Turkish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gulay Baran
56 mins
  -> Teşekkür ederim. İyi Bayramlar :)
agree  Cuneyt Arslan: katılıyorum.
2 hrs
  -> Teşekkür ederim. İyi Bayramlar :)
agree  Salih YILDIRIM
20 hrs
  -> Teşekkür ederim. İyi Bayramlar :)
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
polemics on score calculation formula


Explanation:
IMHO

Ali Bayraktar
Türkiye
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
The controversy over coefficients


Explanation:
I do not disagree with the other suggestions, but I think in English we often use 'controversy' to refer to this kind of heated and widespread public debate about government policy.

Tim Drayton
Cyprus
Local time: 20:34
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
coefficient system discussions


Explanation:
In Turkey, a coefficient system is used to calculate the scores of the high school graduates for the university admission exam.

Example:

Civil society denounces court decision on coefficient system
A Council of State ruling calling for a stay on the abolishment of a system that uses a lower coefficient to calculate the scores of graduates of vocational high schools on Turkey's university admission exam has drawn the ire of civil society organizations, which termed the ruling “unlawful.”

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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-11-28 16:34:08 GMT)
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You're welcome.

Regular high school students have their exam points multiplied by, let's say (I don't know the exact coefficients), 0,8 for their final results whereas Imam Hatip students -and the students of other vocational schools- have theirs multiplied rather by 0,3. Therefore, the regular high school students achieve a higher final result than the İmam Hatip students who have exactly the same university admission exam score; so this is a disadvantageous condition for Imam Hatip students.

http://www.meteoman.net/tag/imamhatip-liselerinde-katsayi-fa...

http://www.meteoman.net/tag/imamhatip-liselerinde-katsayi-fa...

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Note added at 23 hrs (2009-11-28 16:37:34 GMT)
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The idea in revoking this coefficient practice is to eliminate this unfair scoring system.


    Reference: http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/mobile.do?load=wapDetay&li...
Bee Baran
Australia
Local time: 03:34
Native speaker of: Turkish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
many thanks very good indeed
Notes to answerer
Asker: Many thanks – let’s try and pin this down. Do you mean, for instance, that pupils of other kinds of high school still have their exam points multiplied perhaps by 8 for their final results whereas perhaps Imam Hatip pupils do not have their exam points multiplied by 8 any more but rather by 10 or 12 for their final results? Is the idea to even out perceived disadvantages?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nigar Mancini
2 hrs
  -> Teşekkür ederim, iyi bayramlar.
agree  Mehmet Hascan: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=pm-erdogan-criticiz...
3 hrs
  -> Teşekkür ederim, iyi bayramlar.
agree  Salih YILDIRIM
20 hrs
  -> Teşekkür ederim, yeniden iyi bayramlar. (:
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