moymul, muymul

English translation: a kind of hawk

15:11 Oct 7, 2008
Turkish to English translations [Non-PRO]
Science - Zoology / Vocab Item
Turkish term or phrase: moymul, muymul
Hi,

I came across this word in an interesting way: while learning Kirghiz I found out that moymol meant "beautiful woman".

I later looked in a Turkish dictionary for cognates and found moymul and muymul, both of which apparently mean a kind of bird of prey, but what kind exactly I am so far unable to discover.

Many thanks

Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:32
English translation:a kind of hawk
Explanation:
According to the TDK dictionary it is "moymul" and a kind of hawk (1st link)
According to less authoritative sources it can be "muymul" as well (see the 2nd link for one)
However, since nowhere there seems to be a Latin name, we can't be sure what kind of bird it is - hawk, falcon, buzzard, etc. Might also be a local / dialectical name (I, for one, didn't hear this name before)


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Note added at 21 hrs (2008-10-08 12:50:47 GMT) Post-grading
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It is interesting that in Khirghiz it refers to a "beautiful woman" - assuming it is the same word, of course. I remember reading animal-inspired images of beauty or attractiveness are mostly about game animals for women (not familiar with images in English, but in Turkish they go as gazelle, doe, swan, dove...) and animals that hunt for men (again from Turkish, lion, tiger, eagle, hawk...). So, this must be an exception, maybe emphasizing the "captivating" quality of the woman ;-)

What an unfair world, innit?
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a kind of hawk


Explanation:
According to the TDK dictionary it is "moymul" and a kind of hawk (1st link)
According to less authoritative sources it can be "muymul" as well (see the 2nd link for one)
However, since nowhere there seems to be a Latin name, we can't be sure what kind of bird it is - hawk, falcon, buzzard, etc. Might also be a local / dialectical name (I, for one, didn't hear this name before)


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Note added at 21 hrs (2008-10-08 12:50:47 GMT) Post-grading
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It is interesting that in Khirghiz it refers to a "beautiful woman" - assuming it is the same word, of course. I remember reading animal-inspired images of beauty or attractiveness are mostly about game animals for women (not familiar with images in English, but in Turkish they go as gazelle, doe, swan, dove...) and animals that hunt for men (again from Turkish, lion, tiger, eagle, hawk...). So, this must be an exception, maybe emphasizing the "captivating" quality of the woman ;-)

What an unfair world, innit?


    Reference: http://tdk.org.tr/TR/SozBul.aspx?F6E10F8892433CFFAAF6AA84981...
    www.bibilgi.com/bulmaca-sözlüğü-A - 79k
Özden Arıkan
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Explanation:
Following PDF - formatted novel in Kırgız language accompanied by its Turkish version justifies my definition.

Salih YILDIRIM
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