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Poll: Have you ever requested up-front fees from a new client?
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May 8, 2009

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Yasutomo Kanazawa
Yasutomo Kanazawa  Identity Verified
Japan
Local time: 21:15
Mitglied (2005)
Englisch > Japanisch
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Yes I have May 8, 2009

Only from new clients with a BB recording of either being banned from posting jobs at Proz, and agencies infamous for non-payment in the industry.

And of course, they turned down my request as I suspected.


 
Sanmar
Sanmar
Vereinigtes Königreich
Local time: 13:15
Niederländisch > Englisch
No May 8, 2009

No, but I have asked for upfront payment from an established client since it became increasingly difficult to get payment out of him. I would get paid eventually but not after months and months of phoning, emailing etc. Funny thing was that he was quite happy to pay me upfront to get the work done by me!

 
inkweaver
inkweaver  Identity Verified
Deutschland
Local time: 14:15
Französisch > Deutsch
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Requested yes - received no May 8, 2009

I did request a 50% upfront payment from a new client once but didn't get it. I did the job anyway and got paid on time ...

 
John Cutler
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Spanien
Local time: 14:15
Spanisch > Englisch
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No May 8, 2009

Good faith takes time to develop, so I prefer to put a "credit limit" on first time clients. In other words, I don't accept first time jobs for a value of more than a couple of hundred euros. That's all I'm willing to be out if the client doesn't pay.

To tell the truth, in 10+ years of translating, I've had some late - very late payers, but I've never had a non-payer. (Knock on wood).


 
Francesca Siotto
Francesca Siotto  Identity Verified
Italien
Local time: 14:15
Englisch > Italienisch
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Yes May 8, 2009

Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:

Only from new clients with a BB recording of either being banned from posting jobs at Proz, and agencies infamous for non-payment in the industry.

And of course, they turned down my request as I suspected.



Same here


 
Venkatesh Sundaram
Venkatesh Sundaram  Identity Verified
Indien
Local time: 17:45
Deutsch > Englisch
From first time clients - individuals and small companies May 8, 2009

It is supposed to be one of my 'business policies' to take an advance from first time clients, both individuals and small companies. From the bigger companies, I insist on a purchase order or similar document. Agencies usually don't have a policy of giving advances but I haven't yet had any serious problems because I didn't take an advance from any of them

 
Steven Sidore
Steven Sidore  Identity Verified
Deutschland
Local time: 14:15
Deutsch > Englisch
Did so today, as a matter of fact May 8, 2009

Walk-up clients get asked for money up front, sure. But that's typically for consumer-type things--translations of diplomas, driver's licenses and the like.

 
Susanna Garcia
Susanna Garcia  Identity Verified
Local time: 13:15
Italienisch > Englisch
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In stillem Gedenken
Up-front fees May 8, 2009

No, but I too won't take on big projects from unknowns.

 
DZiW (X)
DZiW (X)
Ukraine
Englisch > Russisch
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no payment in full May 8, 2009

When I’m dealing with a new Customer I usually
1) see a sample and we agree all the nuances in advance;
2) when 1/2 (or as agreed) of job is done I expect 1/2 of payment;
3) having received the check or money I finish the job and let the Customer 7 working days to pay off.

I seldom do ask for advance money - up to 1/2 of the sum, but not 100%.
Probably if it’s a single line or a short passage I would have a lunch as the up-front fee...
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When I’m dealing with a new Customer I usually
1) see a sample and we agree all the nuances in advance;
2) when 1/2 (or as agreed) of job is done I expect 1/2 of payment;
3) having received the check or money I finish the job and let the Customer 7 working days to pay off.

I seldom do ask for advance money - up to 1/2 of the sum, but not 100%.
Probably if it’s a single line or a short passage I would have a lunch as the up-front fee

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Jenn Mercer
Jenn Mercer  Identity Verified
Vereinigte Staaten
Local time: 08:15
Mitglied (2009)
Französisch > Englisch
Not from a new client... May 8, 2009

...but I had a direct client who started having large delays in payment after having previously been a very prompt payer. Several months later, they were finally caught up with all of their payments and I stated that I would not do the final piece of the project unless I received payment in advance. I did receive it and was able to finish the project on good terms. However I will not do any future work for them without advance payment.

 
Αlban SHPΑTΑ
Αlban SHPΑTΑ  Identity Verified
Vereinigte Staaten
Mitglied (2008)
Englisch > Albanisch
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Yes May 8, 2009

Upfront payment from private individuals that use a yahoo or hotmail address. I tend to avoid contact with any company or agency with bad payment practices.

 
John Rawlins
John Rawlins  Identity Verified
Spanien
Local time: 14:15
Spanisch > Englisch
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50% advance payment to filter out the 'baddies' May 8, 2009

If I can't find evidence that the business is well established - and the order is worth more than 100 euros - then I ask for a 50% advance payment. Most individuals and companies have agreed immediately. I am certain that the few who refused to make an advance payment were unlikely to have made any payment.

On the agency side, I only deal with firms that have a good BB rating.

Like John Cutler, I have never suffered a non-payer. I like to think that the non-payers tend
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If I can't find evidence that the business is well established - and the order is worth more than 100 euros - then I ask for a 50% advance payment. Most individuals and companies have agreed immediately. I am certain that the few who refused to make an advance payment were unlikely to have made any payment.

On the agency side, I only deal with firms that have a good BB rating.

Like John Cutler, I have never suffered a non-payer. I like to think that the non-payers tend to victimise the cut-pricers.
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Kathryn Litherland
Kathryn Litherland  Identity Verified
Vereinigte Staaten
Local time: 08:15
Mitglied (2007)
Spanisch > Englisch
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have been offered May 8, 2009

I've been offered up-front payment from a couple of fellow freelance translators I've collaborated with, but in both cases I told them I was fine with my standard 30-day payment terms.

I think this is probably governed by the same logic as "I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member": any client who offers you up-front payment can probably be trusted to pay on credit. Any client who can't be trusted to pay probably won't agree to up-front payment even if y
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I've been offered up-front payment from a couple of fellow freelance translators I've collaborated with, but in both cases I told them I was fine with my standard 30-day payment terms.

I think this is probably governed by the same logic as "I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member": any client who offers you up-front payment can probably be trusted to pay on credit. Any client who can't be trusted to pay probably won't agree to up-front payment even if you ask.
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Rebecca Lowery
Rebecca Lowery  Identity Verified
Vereinigtes Königreich
Local time: 13:15
Französisch > Englisch
Yes May 8, 2009

Always from private individuals for the translation of birth certificates etc.
Otherwise they tend not to pay....


 
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