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Glossary entry

français term or phrase:

dîner découverte

anglais translation:

culinary discovery (dinner)

Added to glossary by Carol Gullidge
Feb 22, 2008 16:23
16 yrs ago
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français term

dîner découverte

français vers anglais Autre Cuisine / culinaire tourism
— formule 2 jours/1 nuit : 1 dîner « spécialités du terroir avec 3 plats (entrée, plat et dessert). ou formule 3 jours/2 nuits : 1 dîner « spécialités du terroir avec 3 plats (entrée, plat et dessert) .et -------- 1 dîner découverte -------- avec 4 plats (entrée, plat, chariot de fromages et dessert),

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On a tourism site, this is one of the options being offered at a high-class restaurant . Is this simply a variation on the "dîner dégustation" that has been cropping up elsewhere, or is it something quite different?

Any suggestions would be very welcome - many thanks!

Discussion

Carol Gullidge (asker) Feb 24, 2008:
thanks also for the helpful peer comments and notes!
Carol Gullidge (asker) Feb 22, 2008:
Thanks Tony! I like this idea - I usually assume that 'menu' is a set menu, and like the idea of specially-chosen wines to partner each dish. This makes sense, but, alas, there isn't room to be all that specific
Attorney DC Bar Feb 22, 2008:
Exploratory dinner, with laparotomy. (Please write "bon pour accord" and sign below...)
Tony M Feb 22, 2008:
You need to be careful, Carol! Usually, 'menu dégustation' implies that you have wine specially chosen to suit each course. I'm not sure if this is an 'official' definition (though I have heard it said), but it certainly often seems to be the case
Carol Gullidge (asker) Feb 22, 2008:
thanks, CMJ! But I've already used that for menu dégustation...
CMJ_Trans (X) Feb 22, 2008:
it might even be a tasting menu.....

Proposed translations

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6 minutes
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culinary discovery (dinner)

:-)
Note from asker:
thanks Adam for the speedy response!
Peer comment(s):

agree Victoria Porter-Burns : nice
2 minutes
agree Catherine CHAUVIN : It sounds lovely!
18 minutes
agree François Crompton-Roberts : Je ne mettrais pas les parenthèses. Notez que "plats" se dit "courses" dans ce contexte.
30 minutes
agree Mary Carroll Richer LaFlèche
52 minutes
agree alizestarfir (X)
6 heures
agree cjohnstone : culinary seems superfluous, would just leave "discovery" tout seul
16 heures
agree Dilshod Madolimov
1 jour 1 heure
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "many thanks, Adam! This fits best"
8 minutes

tasting dinner

Sounds like the same thing as "menu dégustation," as you suggest, despite the small number of dishes (only one more than the other meals)!

You could also maybe call it a "variety dinner" or something along those lines, but that might sound a little corny!
Note from asker:
thanks CheeryPie for the speedy suggestions!
sorry! I meant CherryPie...!
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29 minutes

exquisite four-course dinner menu

not an overly faithful rendition
Note from asker:
maybe not literary, but that might what it boils down to! Thanks Jonathan!
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Diner sur l'herbe

Well, it couldn't be "special", could it, because that's bangers and mash, or "gourmet" because that's pretentious. Or "surprise" because that's rather worrying, or "delight", because it's reminiscent of "pud". And "discovery" would put us with Caernarfon chez Tutankhamun, unearthing a corpse. And then, we already know its "diner", no surprise there, why mention it. It's delectable. It's intriguing. It's french.It's not "Déjeuner sur l'herbe" it must be....
It's also the week end!
Note from asker:
thanks fourth for the entertainment - as you say, it is the weekend...
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4 heures

Tasting menu - as opposed to tasting menu with wine pairings

Perhaps the difference between Menu Dégustation and Dîner Découvert is that one comes with wine pairings and the other doesn't... Just a thought.
Note from asker:
thanks again Lucy!
Peer comment(s):

agree rkillings
5 heures
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1 heure

introductory menu

I've tried one or two of these at restos whose thresholds I would never usually have dared to cross (Villefranche-sur-Conflent was a good one). It is a very reasonably priced menu to tempt new customers in. They hope that you will be so impressed that you will pay the normal prices next time.

"Price bracket: From £12.00 per head for three courses not including drinks, for the introductory menu, around £20.00 a la carte. ..."
www.georgianhousehotel.co.uk/restaurants_near_georgian_hous...

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"... the restaurant at the famous Hôtel du Palais in Biarritz which he still runs today. ... The twelve course introductory menu was magnificent. ..."
www.hangar-7.com/en/special-pages/kulinarik/gastkoeche-2007...

OR to really go for blow-out (the prices appear not to be misprints):
"De Karmeliet is one of Belgium’s three-star Michelin restaurants and is the Mecca for Belgian food lovers, who dream of eating there once in their lifetime. It is top of the top, Belgian cuisine at its finest, and probably the best Belgian restaurant, so that means the best kitchen in the world. It lays not even 5 minutes away by foot from the large medieval market square. Only for real gourmets (150,00 euros/person) and for those who want to sweep their partners off their feet. They offer an **introductory menu for 50,000 euro**, but this is without the (expensive) wine. This short menu is not served on Friday and Saturday night or on Sunday. "
http://www.igougo.com/dining-reviews-b143611-Bruges-de_karme...

Yes, well perhaps we don't need to be OTT and have wine too.

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Note added at 18 hrs (2008-02-23 10:54:17 GMT)
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Well, OK the second one is a misprint and the first shouldn't be a comma, but I found it amusing.
Note from asker:
thanks Barbara! This is a great idea, but doesn't fit here, as these guests are only here for short breaks. Sorry, it never occurred to me to explain that bit, and normally it probably wouldn't have been relevant. I do try to give as much context as possible, but failed dismally here...
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