Pages in topic: < [1 2 3] > | Poll: Do you think a translator's profile picture can influence an outsourcer's final decision? Thread poster: ProZ.com Staff
| m_temmer Local time: 16:30 English to Dutch + ...
As it was already said, it shouldn't, but of course it does. It's just part of the information we pick up, be it consciously or unconsciously. And whether we want to admit it or not, it influences our decisions. That doesn't necessarily mean that good looking translators get more work though. Maybe customers have the idea that a really good translator must look like a "geek"... Or unconsciously an outsourcer is reminded e.g. of a deceased relative or of a really good friend or something...... See more As it was already said, it shouldn't, but of course it does. It's just part of the information we pick up, be it consciously or unconsciously. And whether we want to admit it or not, it influences our decisions. That doesn't necessarily mean that good looking translators get more work though. Maybe customers have the idea that a really good translator must look like a "geek"... Or unconsciously an outsourcer is reminded e.g. of a deceased relative or of a really good friend or something... Even though a picture will definitely not be decisive, every piece of information on a cv influences outsourcers. ▲ Collapse | | | Yaotl Altan Mexico Local time: 16:30 Member (2006) English to Spanish + ...
It should not influence outsourcers but there are many kinds of personalities judging and deciding over a good CV. At least I have never seen a profile picture depicting a psycho-like face with a knife, just punk hairstyles or family photos. | | | Arthur Godinho United States Local time: 18:30 Member (2009) English to Portuguese + ...
Simply put: Does the client hire your translating ability/know-how or your devilish good looks? Does he/she want someone who can translate or a does he/she want a Barbie or Ken doll? Personally, I couldn't care less what you look like. The only important question in my mind is, to my mind, the only question that really matters: Can he or she do the job well? | | | The Misha Local time: 18:30 Russian to English + ... Whether we like it or not, there's human pscychology at work here. | Apr 25, 2011 |
Of course the way you look matters (whether it's fair or not), even if your potential client is not conscious of the fact. With this in mind, I'd stay away from any pictures if you are young enough since that fact alone could be equated with inexperience, true or perceived. Similarly and counterintuitively, if you are young AND beautiful, AND a lady, you could simply be perceived as not serious enough. Or not - but why take chances? If need be, you could always provide a photo to you client AFTE... See more Of course the way you look matters (whether it's fair or not), even if your potential client is not conscious of the fact. With this in mind, I'd stay away from any pictures if you are young enough since that fact alone could be equated with inexperience, true or perceived. Similarly and counterintuitively, if you are young AND beautiful, AND a lady, you could simply be perceived as not serious enough. Or not - but why take chances? If need be, you could always provide a photo to you client AFTER the fact. Also, as Simon Bruni said above, children, dogs, elephants, trumpets, saxophones and anything else unrelated to the business at hand is a total no-no. Competing for business is hard enough as it is without shooting yourself in the foot. There's also the matter of maintaining one's privacy. I, for one, like mine just fine. As a disclaimer, I am in my mid 40s, 20+ years in the business, two children, two serious hobbies, no dogs at the moment and no secret agendas. ▲ Collapse | |
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I know that I form judgements based on profile pics, so I imagine that others do too. My first impression of someone who puts a picture of a pet or child as their profile is often that they are probably a hobbyist, rather than a full-time translator. Conversely, I tend to shy away from people with super-polished "glamour shot"-type pictures, as I tend to think that they might consider their appearance more important than spending serious time on their work. Having sai... See more I know that I form judgements based on profile pics, so I imagine that others do too. My first impression of someone who puts a picture of a pet or child as their profile is often that they are probably a hobbyist, rather than a full-time translator. Conversely, I tend to shy away from people with super-polished "glamour shot"-type pictures, as I tend to think that they might consider their appearance more important than spending serious time on their work. Having said that, I prefer a picture (or a logo) over nothing at all - I do think that expressing SOME aspect of your business or personality is better than none. There is (or used to be) a translator on here with an image of something that looked like a foetus in utero - I always liked that one, as it portrayed a serious image and made me think that that particular translator would be au fait with the latest medical developments. Other than that, I tend to gravitate towards profiles featuring clear head-shots of friendly, sincere-looking and businesslike people, and well-composed shots of people at tidy desks with lots of reference books! ▲ Collapse | | | Mohd Tariq India Local time: 04:00 English to Punjabi + ... Of course Yes! | Apr 25, 2011 |
Of course Yes! The pic of a translator gives a physical appearance to the outsourcer. Most of the people on sites/megazines/newspapers are recognized by their pics and styles only. The look speaks as well. It gives a real image to viewer to keep in mind. Even more the profile completeness gives points for the pic.....!!!! So be aware how much a pic can do while outsourcing......!!!! | | | Mami Yamaguchi Japan Local time: 07:30 Member (2008) English to Japanese + ... I don't know....but | Apr 25, 2011 |
The reason why I show my photo is that a business partner who has kept more than a year relashionship with me always believed that I am male. Although my name is 'Mami' and it is obviously female name, he believed such that until then. Also an another agency used 'he' many times when he mentioned about me... So I decided to show my appearance.
[Edited at 2011-04-26 05:09 GMT] | | | JaneD Sweden Local time: 00:30 Member (2009) Swedish to English + ... Professionalism | Apr 25, 2011 |
If the outsourcer is looking for a professional, to undertake a job for them, then an image with a professional-looking photograph or logo would be what they would expect. However, I'm sure (I hope!) that no serious outsourcer would choose a less experienced but more attractive translator over a more experienced but less attractive one. | |
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BirgitBerlin Germany Local time: 00:30 English to German + ...
Arthur Godinho wrote: Simply put: Does the client hire your translating ability/know-how or your devilish good looks? That is a very, very cute cat, Arthur, and as a cat lover I'd hire you straight away!!! I think people look at your skills first, but if they also like your picture it's an added bonus. Since I have my current photo I definitely get more enquiries. | | | It will likely influence the decision, but it shouldn’t | Apr 25, 2011 |
In fact, any potential client that makes the decision to hire or reject hiring me based on my picture, after learning that I am a patent attorney, holder of a PhD in Chemical Engineering and an MBA in Finance, an ATA-cert. EN>ES translator and a ProZ’s Pro, is a client that I don’t want to have. Thank goodness that those clients are irrelevant, at least for me, as proven by the fact that I am working 50-60 hours per week, at a rate well above the one expected for my “unusual” pair, Engli... See more In fact, any potential client that makes the decision to hire or reject hiring me based on my picture, after learning that I am a patent attorney, holder of a PhD in Chemical Engineering and an MBA in Finance, an ATA-cert. EN>ES translator and a ProZ’s Pro, is a client that I don’t want to have. Thank goodness that those clients are irrelevant, at least for me, as proven by the fact that I am working 50-60 hours per week, at a rate well above the one expected for my “unusual” pair, English to Spanish. In the United States, attaching a picture to your CV when you are seeking employment (not a freelance contract) is a no-no, as the picture tends to show “parameters” that are illegal to consider when making an employment decision: boy or girl; young or old; white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. But, surely, human beings been what they are, a picture may/will have an influence in contracting decisions. If one needs that extra help, he or she should feel free to use it. In the meantime, I will keep showing my picture, an eight year-old pix, proudly holding my eldest grandson (in spite that, as it is said, a pix with children is a no-no marketing approach). Best to all, Luis
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Arthur Godinho wrote: Simply put: Does the client hire your translating ability/know-how or your devilish good looks? Does he/she want someone who can translate or a does he/she want a Barbie or Ken doll? Personally, I couldn't care less what you look like. The only important question in my mind is, to my mind, the only question that really matters: Can he or she do the job well? | | | Karin Berling United States Local time: 18:30 Member (2010) Norwegian (Bokmal) to English + ...
I have noticed that many European resumes require a photo, whereas that would be unheard of here in the US. I prefer profiles with a photo or at least a professional logo. This job is lonely enough as it is - always nice to know there are actual humans behind all those computer screens | |
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I agree that having a professional looking photo of yourself (not your pets or kids) is a good idea...not so much for getting hired but I think we all like to have a mental image of the person we're dealing with. Especially since we are not likely to ever meet most of the people we work with. I can see how a photo that looks old, blurry, like a prison photo or overly 'airbrushed' could deter someone from engaging you but I would hope that in general, it's our skills etc that ultimat... See more I agree that having a professional looking photo of yourself (not your pets or kids) is a good idea...not so much for getting hired but I think we all like to have a mental image of the person we're dealing with. Especially since we are not likely to ever meet most of the people we work with. I can see how a photo that looks old, blurry, like a prison photo or overly 'airbrushed' could deter someone from engaging you but I would hope that in general, it's our skills etc that ultimately determine the outcome. I have no idea if someone has rejected my services because of my photo but if they do, then so be it! ▲ Collapse | | | scriptrans (X) Local time: 00:30 English to German + ... Why should it matter? | Apr 26, 2011 |
I have no idea what the people I work for look like and I don't really care as long as they pay me on time. A photo would tell me nothing about their reliabilty since looks can be very very deceiving. So why should my looks matter to them? Would that tell them anything about my skills? No. Then again, if I had a choice between a translator with a "suit and tie" picture and one with a picture of/with their children or pets I would always go for the latter (assuming that they both had... See more I have no idea what the people I work for look like and I don't really care as long as they pay me on time. A photo would tell me nothing about their reliabilty since looks can be very very deceiving. So why should my looks matter to them? Would that tell them anything about my skills? No. Then again, if I had a choice between a translator with a "suit and tie" picture and one with a picture of/with their children or pets I would always go for the latter (assuming that they both had the same skills/experience) as I detest so-called business attire. ▲ Collapse | | | Interlangue (X) Angola Local time: 00:30 English to French + ...
Voice used to be (very) important when (potential) clients were calling. I realised that when a customer phoned me on a Monday early morning and said (after I had accepted the job) “even on a Monday morning you sound peppy, it is a pleasure, and you made my day!” I hardly ever get any professional calls now, and even though looks may not be important, our general attitude on and the choice of a photograph probably give away much more than what we think. I posted my... See more Voice used to be (very) important when (potential) clients were calling. I realised that when a customer phoned me on a Monday early morning and said (after I had accepted the job) “even on a Monday morning you sound peppy, it is a pleasure, and you made my day!” I hardly ever get any professional calls now, and even though looks may not be important, our general attitude on and the choice of a photograph probably give away much more than what we think. I posted my picture on Proz after a Dutch colleague tried to figure out who was who at a powwow, and asked why I hid among the “anonymous”. I’ve noticed since then at any conference, powwow or other get-together, that people I’d never met before recognise me (‘I’ve seen you before’)… Posting here (and elsewhere) is another way to allow others to get to know you – and can be the start of a conversation when you meet a Prozian IRL. I do not remember ever enclosing my picture in a CV, but would not object to it – I only send my CV on request anyway (to customers I’ve been working with for some time), in the format and with the information as required. Wish you a great day!
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