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Thread poster: Jerzy Czopik
Jerzy Czopik
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Jan 22, 2011

Anyone experienced here?
I am looking for a system, that would be

  • fast
  • small
  • quiet


Any hints from own experience?
Many thanks
Best regards
Jerzy


 
Andrzej Lejman
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QNAP TS-509 Turbo Station Jan 23, 2011

http://www.stora... See more
http://www.storagefocus.pl/zamkniete-testy-i-opisy-produktow/network-attached-storage/test-storagefocus-qnap-ts-509-turbo-stati

http://www.storagefocus.pl/testy-i-opisy-produktow/network-attached-storage/serwery-nas-dla-domu-soho-test-porownawczy

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FarkasAndras
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Own experience: Jan 23, 2011

... avoid.
I got a Western Digital MyBook NAS, and it hasn't lived up to expectations. It was excruciatingly slow through wifi and only slightly faster through ethernet cable, and using the built-in media server broke my internet connection every time - when it worked, because most of the time it simply didn't. I never got around to trying the online file access, because I got fed up and bought a USB 3.0 external drive instead of struggling with the NAS.
Of course, all the problems c
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... avoid.
I got a Western Digital MyBook NAS, and it hasn't lived up to expectations. It was excruciatingly slow through wifi and only slightly faster through ethernet cable, and using the built-in media server broke my internet connection every time - when it worked, because most of the time it simply didn't. I never got around to trying the online file access, because I got fed up and bought a USB 3.0 external drive instead of struggling with the NAS.
Of course, all the problems could be attributed to my wifi router, but the router is a Linksys WRT54G, the best regarded consumer router there is, and it works flawlessly in general. My download speeds from the internet were faster than copy speeds to and from the NAS... I wasn't in the mood to get a new router and hope it solves the problems.


In related news, anyone want to buy a slightly used NAS from me?




P.s. if you are undeterred, a *very* computer-savvy friend swears by drobo.
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NetGear Stora Jan 23, 2011

I use this model trying to move from middle tower PC to barebone. It's cheap, small and quiet with 1Gb Ethernet.
But it has some strange features:
Software is really for "dummies"
It needs working router with DHCP server enabled
It needs Internet connection on install (tries to upgrade firmware)
It creates predefined folders with funny names
http://www.netgear.com/stora


 
Jerzy Czopik
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You see - that is why I ask Jan 23, 2011

The systems you mention, both NetGear Stora and WD My Book are not designed for professional usage.
The system Andrzej mentions is already outdated as I could find, but there are followers and these are suitable and designed for professional use.


 
Jaroslaw Michalak
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DNS-323 Jan 23, 2011

I use DNS-323.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=509

It is quite small and relatively quiet (especially when standing on rubber mat).

As for the speed, I have nothing to compare it with, but it is certainly not the weakest link of my 1GB network. And I would not call it "professional-grade", but I don't mind.


 
Jerzy Czopik
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D-Link Jan 23, 2011

@Jabberwock: did you try to keep the files there whie working with your fvourite CAT on your desktop/laptop?
This is what I want to do: keep the files there, keep TMs and dictionaries local and work with the NAS as would it be a HDD in my PC.


 
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Why would I do that? Jan 23, 2011

Jerzy Czopik wrote:

@Jabberwock: did you try to keep the files there whie working with your fvourite CAT on your desktop/laptop?
This is what I want to do: keep the files there, keep TMs and dictionaries local and work with the NAS as would it be a HDD in my PC.


No, the performance would still suffer. Also, if I remember correctly, some CATs have problems with accessing network drives.

Actually, I use C: drive for all my work files. If it crashes, I can always restore the data from my second HD backup, my NAS (where it's doubled as it is configured as RAID1) or, if worst comes to worst, from my cloud backup.


 
Jerzy Czopik
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Many reasons Jan 23, 2011

The first and most important:
To have all data in central location, available for two computers.
Second reason: to try to configure an access from outside via Internet.


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Why wouldn't a server be a solution? Jan 23, 2011

I follow this very interesting topic. For our 4-people team, we have always been using servers. Jerzy, can you tell us a bit about your reasons not to use a server in the traditional sense?

 
Jerzy Czopik
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Price Jan 23, 2011

I can get a quite nice QNAP TS-219P+ with 4 TB storage for under 500 EUR.
There will never be a server available for that price.


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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Quite true Jan 23, 2011

Jerzy Czopik wrote:
I can get a quite nice QNAP TS-219P+ with 4 TB storage for under 500 EUR.
There will never be a server available for that price.

This is very true indeed. Even a reasonably-priced server with a server operating system will go well over the thousand euros, unless you grab your grandmother's machine and set it up as a server with some Linux packaging.

I will keep following the topic. I might learn something new from it! Thanks Jerzy.


 
Philippe Etienne
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Same here Jan 24, 2011

Jabberwock wrote:

I use DNS-323.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=509

It is quite small and relatively quiet (especially when standing on rubber mat).

As for the speed, I have nothing to compare it with, but it is certainly not the weakest link of my 1GB network. And I would not call it "professional-grade", but I don't mind.


It's rather old equipment (2007), so I don't know how fast it is compared to newer models. I found it easy to set up without being a computer wizard. I use it only for RAID1 backup and JBoD archiving on a 100Mbps network, and I don't open files on a regular basis from there.
There is only one USB port, which I use for network printing.
With a static IP address, you can access files remotely. Interesting, but I've never used it.

As for the server/NAS pros/cons, some people argue that a purpose-built server is cheaper (Linux) and with more features than a ready-made NAS. I have no idea about this, but building your own server certainly requires time and skills that I don't have.

Best,
Philippe


 
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DNS-323 cheap -- but slooow Jan 24, 2011

I have a DNS-323 with two 1TB discs in RAID1 mode, meaning that one drive can fail without losing the data.

The unit is small and fairly quiet but IMO too slow for other uses than backing up data. File copying speeds are 5-6 megabytes/second going downhill and with tailwind. I had intended to use it as a working disk, but even in a gigabit network it's fast enough only for backup.

On the other hand, it's still very cheap and reliable.


 
Daniel García
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Windows Home Server? Jan 30, 2011

Hi,

I have a Store device at home and I am quite happy with for the reasons already mentioned (speed, cost and simplicity for a Raid solution) but I would not use it for business, also for the reasons mentioned (too simple to tweak it to your needs, lack of good automatic backup software, needs internet connection, it is not clear how to prevent it from connecting to the Internet by itself).

For a small business setup, I think I would look at Windows Home Server ("home"
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Hi,

I have a Store device at home and I am quite happy with for the reasons already mentioned (speed, cost and simplicity for a Raid solution) but I would not use it for business, also for the reasons mentioned (too simple to tweak it to your needs, lack of good automatic backup software, needs internet connection, it is not clear how to prevent it from connecting to the Internet by itself).

For a small business setup, I think I would look at Windows Home Server ("home" hear means also "home office"). It's not too expensive, you can find small and silent devices with it installed and it allows for a much greater customisation than a NAS device.

For example, you can set it up to make full backups of your networked PCs or you can install SharePoint services and use it as a small document management system with centralised calendars and tasks lists (which also integrate with Outlook in the client PCs).

The drawback, as opposed to a NAS device is that it is more complicated to manage and that you can only use it at full potential with Windows clients.

I am sure that the same capabilities could be implemented with a small Linux server.

The PC on which you install the server does not have to be new nor powerful. I am running Windows Home Server on an 8-year-old Pentium 4 laptop with 2 gigabytes of RAM.

Jerzy, whatever you go for, I would find it interesting to know what you decide to use in the end.

Daniel
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