Glossary entry

Nederlands term or phrase:

Gedupeerd

Engels translation:

aggrieved

Added to glossary by Robert Allwood
Apr 21, 2005 23:38
19 yrs ago
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Nederlands term

Gedupeerd

Nederlands naar Engels Juridisch / patenten Juridisch (algemeen)
[...] Maar de x foundation bleek uiteindelijk de grootste verliezer. Wij geloofden in y en hadden onze aandelen vastgehouden. Bij succes had de stichting veel gewonnen, maar nu helaas veel verloren. In dat opzicht was x de zwaarst gedupeerde.
[...] Verschillende grote Amerikaanse advocatenkantoren analyseren nauwlettend de koersen op Wall Street. Zodra ze een incident zien, springen ze hierop in. Op basis van no cure no pay beginnen ze lawsuits. Ondertussen zoeken ze versterking bij gedupeerde beleggers.
[...] kregen we te maken met twee Amerikaanse lawsuits. De z case betrof een groep aandeelhouders die zich door de koersval gedupeerd voelde.
[...] Anders dan je misschien zou verwachten, zijn je eigen verdedigers er niet op uit de zaak heel erg snel tot een goed einde te brengen. Zij vinden het plezierig om over een wat langere periode te kunnen declareren. Als gedupeerd bedrijf moet je de hoogte van deze declaraties vergelijken met het niveau waartoe je assuradeurs bereid zijn de rekening te vergoeden. (Now he means the defendants!)
[...] de gedupeerde plaintiffs ontvangen een gedeelte als genoegdoening.

Discussion

Deborah do Carmo Apr 23, 2005:
Ok, some notes below shortly
Non-ProZ.com Apr 23, 2005:
No, certainly not on the part of the author, though the institutional investors that had put people into the company had cashed in their investments, but it seems as if the share price crash was due to outside forces.
Deborah do Carmo Apr 22, 2005:
Hi Robert, from your text as a whole is there any question of an overall scam - in which case duped or swindled would work - or is this just unlucky investors - hard to say with the US as those lawyers tend to litigate over anything.

Proposed translations

5 uren
Selected

swindled/cheated (and where relevant: felt cheated) (to tone down: misled instead of swindled)

Victimised doesn't quite seem to work here throughout, so just another option.

I mean you can be victim of an investment scam and be specifically targeted in that sense but I doubt you can feel "victimised" by a drop in the interest rate - cheated however yes.

Good luck, not an easy one to nail down
Debbie

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Note added at 5 hrs 47 mins (2005-04-22 05:25:34 GMT)
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instead of feeling cheated - you can feel \"aggrieved\" under these circumstances

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Note added at 5 hrs 48 mins (2005-04-22 05:26:51 GMT)
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misled and aggrieved - toned down

or

swindled and cheated - for impact

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Note added at 8 hrs 12 mins (2005-04-22 07:50:55 GMT)
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dupe - IF there is a scam or any question of one elsthant\'s answer is fine but here\'s a list of equivalent terms so you can see if it\'s too strong for your context

¢º verb they were duped by a con man: DECEIVE, trick, hoodwink, hoax, swindle, defraud, cheat, double-cross; gull, mislead, take in, fool, inveigle; informal con, do, rip off, diddle, shaft, bilk, rook, pull the wool over someone\'s eyes, pull a fast one on, sell a pup to; N. Amer. informal sucker, snooker; Austral. informal pull a swifty on.
¢º noun an innocent dupe in her game: VICTIM, gull, pawn, puppet, instrument; fool, innocent; informal sucker, stooge, sitting duck, muggins, fall guy; Brit. informal mug; N. Amer. informal pigeon, patsy, sap.


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Note added at 1 day 11 hrs 10 mins (2005-04-23 10:48:59 GMT)
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Duped/swindled is too strong if there is not a definite scam. A gree of insider trading happens everywhere but if these investors were not targeted specifically they can\'t be victims - if the fall was due mostly to outside forces you need to tone it down a little in my opinion - I\'d stick to words like misled, felt cheated, felt aggrieved - it is more \"benadeeld\" than anything else. Hope this helps

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Note added at 1 day 11 hrs 11 mins (2005-04-23 10:49:18 GMT)
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should read - a degree of
Peer comment(s):

neutral Kate Hudson (X) : Felt cheated comes the closest of the answers you provide.
2 uren
thanks - duped and swindled can only work if there is a definite scam, a drop in interest rates can lead one to feel cheated/misled or aggrieved but not victimised - IMHO
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12 min

victimised

Wouldn't this be helpful?
Hij werd de dupe van: he had to suffer for it, had to stand the racket (pay the bill,...)

... 1) A person ("the discriminator") discriminates against another person ("the person victimised") in any circumstances relevant for the purposes of any ...
www.legalday.co.uk/lexnex/clo040702.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Fred ten Berge : Wordt veelvuldig ondersteund, bijv. door Babylon!
20 min
agree Arsen Nazarian
36 min
agree Paul Peeraerts
4 uren
agree Ljiljana Malovic : gedupeerd = victim of (according to Groot Van Dale); victim of, victimised...
5 uren
disagree Kate Hudson (X) : In this instance it is questionable whether there was an intention to victimise and therefore this is not the correct answer here. Van Dale gives 'duped' and my own feeling is also 'duped'
7 uren
neutral Deborah do Carmo : I tend to agree with Kate, there would have to be targeting for there to be victimisation - I'm not sure there is enough content to say duped/swindled because that implies a definite scam
7 uren
agree shineda : gedupeerd kan ook gewoon *benadeeld* betekenen. In deze tekst zou het soms in de zin van *duped* gebruikt kunnen zijn, maar niet per se in iedere zin.
10 uren
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13 min

duped

.. The duped company filled a lawsuit in the Supreme Court of the United States,
but the CIA let them know that they would have to withdraw the lawsuit if ...
seawar.boom.ru/Disasters/K-129/ - 49k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

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Note added at 14 mins (2005-04-21 23:52:12 GMT)
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duperen (overgankelijk werkwoord)
teleurstellen let down, fail
bedriegen; <lager stijlniveau> con
context
gedupeerd zijn
be let down, be duped


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Note added at 17 mins (2005-04-21 23:55:43 GMT)
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hopelijk helpt dit een beetje... ik heb het gevoel dat \"duped\" in deze (lawsuit) context niet echt past, maar het kan je misschien wel op weg helpen...

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Note added at 18 mins (2005-04-21 23:56:29 GMT)
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bovenstaand lemma komt uit de van Dale N-E, maar dat had je zelf wschl. ook wel gezien
Peer comment(s):

neutral Fred ten Berge : Hoewel zelfs v.d.End deze 'oplossing' ondersteunt, bewonder ik nadrukkelijk je uitdrukkelijke twijfel!
17 min
:-)
disagree Benno Groeneveld : Ik zou het omschrijven: "the company/the victims lost money" hoewel dat het idee van fraude dat ik in "duped" voel op die manier niet helemaal wordt meegenomen.
3 uren
idd: ze zijn niet enkel hun geld kwijt, ze voelen zich (en zijn) ook bedrogen
agree Kate Hudson (X) : I think that this is the best answer in all these sentences
7 uren
thanks
agree moya
7 uren
thanks
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