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Chinese term

重出江湖?武学界人士

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武当七星剑阵重出江湖?武学界人士对此苟同. Relating to martial arts aspects.

How do to translate 重出江湖?武学界人士?

suggestion besides resurface, reappearance for 重出江湖?

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redred Oct 8, 2005:
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kschong (asker) Oct 8, 2005:
To Lesley: The question mark is included in the original text. In fact it is the title heading. so as ��ѧ����ʿ�Դ˹�ͬ.

To all experts: Thank you for all your advise and help. Previously i was thinking can pugilist realm refer to ���� since the title was martial arts related. Anyone have any insights?
chica nueva Oct 8, 2005:
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Proposed translations

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Chinese term (edited): �س���������ѧ����ʿ
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江湖 = 1 in all corners of the country; in the wide world 2 on the highways and byways

江湖 = 1 rivers and lakes - all corners of the country; the wide world 2 rivers and lakes - people wandering from place to place and living by their wits eg fortune tellers, quack doctors, itinerant entertainers, etc. considered as a social group (外研社:汉英词典)
江湖 = 1 旧时泛指四方各地 eg 走江湖,闯江湖,流落江湖 2 旧时指各处流浪靠卖艺,买药等生活的人.也指这种人所从事的行业. (现代汉语词典)




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-> 重出 = 重新出现?

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Note added at 9 hrs 29 mins (2005-10-08 00:57:54 GMT)
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武当七星剑阵 = ?
武当七星剑阵重出江湖?是反问句 rhetorical question -> Will 武当七星剑阵 1 appear once more in/on...?
2 reappear in/on...?
3 once again appear (in the world, in the countryside, among the folk of the highways and byways)?

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1江湖间? 2江湖上? -> 1 is better (2 平常带有贬义的含义在内)

江湖 = 1 rivers and lakes - all corners of the country; the wide world eg 自叙少小时欢乐事,今漂沦憔悴,转徙于江湖间.(白居易) She told me of the pleasures of her youth and said now that her beauty had faded she was drifting from place to place by rivers and lakes.流落江湖 live a vagabond life 2 rivers and lakes - people wandering from place to place and living by their wits eg fortune tellers, quack doctors, itinerant entertainers, etc. considered as a social group 为因学得一家道术,善能呼风唤雨,驾雾腾云,江湖上都称贫道做"入云龙"(<<水浒>>) Among the rivers and lakes I am known as the "Cloud-soaring Dragon" because of my studies as a Taoist adept, which enable me to summon the wind and rain and to ride the clouds and the mist. (外研社:汉英词典)

see also:
江湖好汉 = a good fellow of the rivers and lakes; a bravo of river and lake
江湖骗子 = swindler; charlatan
江湖气 = (derog) worldly-wise; slippery; sleek
江湖医生 = quack; mountebank
江湖艺人 = itinerant entertainer
(外研社:汉英词典)


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武学界人士 - that is another question, which I think others have answered.

pugilist 1 is not a common word 2 in the West, is generally associated with boxing, in my experience

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I am not sure that my dictionaries cover the martial arts subculture adequately. The best answer may come from others who know this field and its language well 熟悉这个领域.
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reappearing in rivers and lakes

重出江湖=reappearing in rivers and lakes

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武学界人士:people in martial arts circles

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Peer comment(s):

neutral samnunns : "Reappaering" sounds fine, but "rivers and lakes" doesn't.
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How to translate "笑傲江湖"?Thanks in advance.
agree chica nueva : 'by rivers and lakes'(ie all over the country) - perhaps you might need to explain this idiom/metaphor...?/you are very patient Chinoise. 我对武术是文盲. I now find this 江湖 is a common term and idea in martial arts, as in 威震江湖 etc.
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Well said! Thank you!
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Chinese term (edited): ~{VX3v=-:~#?NdQ'=gHKJ?~}

reappear in the countryside.

~{=-:~~} refers to the bandit style living in the countryside, like the characters in ~{K.d04+~}
Peer comment(s):

agree chica nueva : 江湖 as in 流落江湖?, as in 江湖好汉? as in 威震江湖?
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Chinese term (edited): ~{VX3v=-:~#?NdQ'=gHKJ?~}

reappear in the martial arts society

try
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agree chica nueva : I think you are right.
1 day 5 hrs
thanks
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Chinese term (edited): ~{VX3v=-:~~}

has re-emerged within martial arts community...

This text implies that something has not been seen for a long time. I think instead of a literal translation, maybe a contextual translation would work just as well.
Peer comment(s):

agree chica nueva : yes, it seems 江湖 = 武林 = the martial arts community, as in 威震江湖,威震武林等, am I right?
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yes, although I have seen it used to refer loosely the country at large, but I think in this text, it refers exclusively to the martial arts community.
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Chinese term (edited): �س���������ѧ����ʿ

a respected figure in the martial arts world

重出江湖 reappear on the scene

虽然简单但是也贴切,只要你把"重出江湖"当作“四方各地”而不是“一种谋生的行业”
A little colloquial but conveys the message, if you take 江湖 to mean “all corners of the country”and not “a particular trade".

武学界人士a respected figure in the martial arts world
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agree chica nueva : Looks quite good to me too, seems 江湖could stand for 'martial arts circles', but 'on the scene' might work very well.
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thanks for your comment, Lesley !
agree melody9999 : I likie "reappear on the scene", thanks
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