Jan 31, 2006 03:05
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English term
disoriented/disorientated
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what is the difference between these two terms?
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Responses
4 +13 | I would say none .... prefer disoriented | David Hollywood |
3 +9 | Agree with David | Kim Metzger |
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Jan 31, 2006 03:19: Kim Metzger changed "Term asked" from "disoriented/desorientated" to "disoriented/disorientated"
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6 mins
English term (edited):
disoriented/desorientated
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I would say none .... prefer disoriented
my understanding
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Note added at 7 mins (2006-01-31 03:12:56 GMT)
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Definitions of disoriented on the Web:
confused: having lost your bearings; confused as to time or place or personal identity; "I frequently find myself disoriented when I come up out of the subway"; "the anesthetic left her completely disoriented"
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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-31 03:14:57 GMT)
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disorientated was found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary at the
entries listed below. disorientate · disoriented ...
dictionary.cambridge.org/ results.asp?searchword=disorientated - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 7 mins (2006-01-31 03:12:56 GMT)
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Definitions of disoriented on the Web:
confused: having lost your bearings; confused as to time or place or personal identity; "I frequently find myself disoriented when I come up out of the subway"; "the anesthetic left her completely disoriented"
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Note added at 9 mins (2006-01-31 03:14:57 GMT)
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disorientated was found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary at the
entries listed below. disorientate · disoriented ...
dictionary.cambridge.org/ results.asp?searchword=disorientated - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "well, that's what I thought. I too cringe when I hear 'disorientated'...
Thank you all!!!!!"
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12 mins
English term (edited):
disoriented/desorientated
Agree with David
Just wanted to add more background info.
ORIENTATED VERSUS ORIENTED
[Q] From David Holland: “I am uneasy about the word orientated as in business-orientated. I feel the word should be oriented. Am I right, wrong, pedantic, or what?”
[A] We have a minor oddity here, in that both orient and orientate come from the same French verb, orienter, but were introduced at different times, the shorter one in the eighteenth century and the longer in the middle of the nineteenth. There’s been a quiet war going on between the two of them ever since. I tend to use oriented and orientated pretty indiscriminately myself, choosing the shorter one when it seems to fit the flow of the sentence. Robert Burchfield, in the Third Edition of Fowler’s Modern English Usage, says “one can have no fundamental quarrel with anyone who decides to use the longer of the two words”. But all this is a British view, since here orientated is common; in the US it is less so and considered much less a part of the standard language. So, as always, it’s as much a case of who you are writing for and where you are doing so.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ori1.htm
Adj. 1. disoriented - having lost your bearings; confused as to time or place or personal identity; "I frequently find myself disoriented when I come up out of the subway"; "the anesthetic left her completely disoriented"
lost, confused
unoriented - not having position or goal definitely set or ascertained; "engaged in unoriented study"; "unoriented until she looked at the map"
2. disoriented - socially disoriented; "anomic loners musing over their fate"; "we live in an age of rootless alienated people"
alienated, anomic
unoriented - not having position or goal definitely set or ascertained; "engaged in unoriented study"; "unoriented until she looked at the map"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disoriented
ORIENTATED VERSUS ORIENTED
[Q] From David Holland: “I am uneasy about the word orientated as in business-orientated. I feel the word should be oriented. Am I right, wrong, pedantic, or what?”
[A] We have a minor oddity here, in that both orient and orientate come from the same French verb, orienter, but were introduced at different times, the shorter one in the eighteenth century and the longer in the middle of the nineteenth. There’s been a quiet war going on between the two of them ever since. I tend to use oriented and orientated pretty indiscriminately myself, choosing the shorter one when it seems to fit the flow of the sentence. Robert Burchfield, in the Third Edition of Fowler’s Modern English Usage, says “one can have no fundamental quarrel with anyone who decides to use the longer of the two words”. But all this is a British view, since here orientated is common; in the US it is less so and considered much less a part of the standard language. So, as always, it’s as much a case of who you are writing for and where you are doing so.
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ori1.htm
Adj. 1. disoriented - having lost your bearings; confused as to time or place or personal identity; "I frequently find myself disoriented when I come up out of the subway"; "the anesthetic left her completely disoriented"
lost, confused
unoriented - not having position or goal definitely set or ascertained; "engaged in unoriented study"; "unoriented until she looked at the map"
2. disoriented - socially disoriented; "anomic loners musing over their fate"; "we live in an age of rootless alienated people"
alienated, anomic
unoriented - not having position or goal definitely set or ascertained; "engaged in unoriented study"; "unoriented until she looked at the map"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disoriented
Peer comment(s):
agree |
sarahl (X)
: yes, I guess oriented came from orienter, orientated from orientation. :-)
36 mins
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agree |
Henry Hinds
: I for one would much prefer "disoriented".
43 mins
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agree |
Balasubramaniam L.
1 hr
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agree |
Refugio
: In school we were taught that orientated, and by extension disorientated, is not "educated usage."
2 hrs
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agree |
Richard Benham
: "De deux mots, choisis le moindre"--Valéry (I think).
2 hrs
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agree |
KathyT
: With Henry and Ruth, above.
7 hrs
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agree |
Mikhail Kropotov
: Nice references
8 hrs
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agree |
Ken Cox
: IMO 'orientated' is strictly UK usage (but maybe I didn't mix with the right crowds in NA).
9 hrs
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agree |
Will Matter
: and I agree with you.
12 hrs
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