Oct 30, 2007 18:33
16 yrs ago
Swedish term

gå tvärt in mot

Swedish to English Tech/Engineering Geology Drilling
Context:
Om borrningen går tvärt in mot en foliation (bergets svaghetsplan) kommer borrningen att vika av vinkelrätt mot foliationen.
This is about hole deviation in drilling.

Discussion

Sven Petersson Oct 31, 2007:
"Flackt mot" is a new question. Please post it as a separate question so that both terms in due time can be entered in the glossary!

Proposed translations

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20 hrs
Selected

goes perpendicular to

Found the following Google hits:
1 for "goes perpendicular towards"
740 for "goes perpendicular to"
18 for drill + " goes perpendicular to"

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Note added at 1 day20 hrs (2007-11-01 15:15:12 GMT)
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"goes perpendicular to" is used about a 45 degree angle and "parallel to"/in flackt mot means a 0 degree angle, which will of course never happen. In other words, they are explaining a principle.

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Note added at 1 day20 hrs (2007-11-01 15:26:22 GMT)
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Sorry not 45, but 90 degree
Peer comment(s):

disagree Sven Petersson : I think one must insert a ’nearly’; the 'kommer borrningen att vika av vinkelrätt mot foliationen' will otherwise be meaningless gobbledygook.
17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for all the answers. On balance this was the most helpful."
13 hrs

squarely in towards

Squarely is just about as definite as 'tvärt in'.
Note from asker:
I have just noticed that the next sentence reads: Kommer borrningen däremot in flackt mot folationen, tenderar borrningen i stället att följa foliationsstråket. So a distinction is being drawn between “tvärt in” and “flackt”. Does anyone want to comment?
Peer comment(s):

neutral Sven Petersson : I think one must insert a ’nearly’; the 'kommer borrningen att vika av vinkelrätt mot foliationen' will otherwise be meaningless gobbledygook. - Addendum: Please see note added under my answer.
13 mins
Could you please explain how 'nearly' makes the gobbledygook meaningful?
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3 hrs

nearly perpendicularly towards; almost perpendicularly towards

:o)

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Note added at 14 hrs (2007-10-31 08:39:02 GMT)
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To George:

One cannot approach a state which one already is in. Example:

One cannot say 'Bilen som var i Stockholm närmade sig Stockholm', but one can say "Bilen som var strax utanför Stockholm närmade sig Stockholm'.
Note from asker:
I have just noticed that the next sentence reads: Kommer borrningen däremot in flackt mot folationen, tenderar borrningen i stället att följa foliationsstråket. So a distinction is being drawn between “tvärt in” and “flackt”. Does anyone want to comment?
The sentence is not a question - it is extra context for the existing question, on which it has an obvious bearing. Maximum context is recommended by Proz.com.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Thomas Johansson : Maybe "goes more or less perpendicularly into"
1 day 1 hr
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6 hrs

goes abruptly in towards

Two explanations for the word "tvärt" (in Norstedt's Swedish dictionary), one is suddenly and with connotations of a jerking nature, the other meaning is "with a sharp directional change". Abruptly may suit the two meanings.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2007-10-31 10:00:22 GMT)
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"in flackt mot" would mean "in flat against" thus opposing the idea of "goes in sideways against" as Sven says
Note from asker:
I have just noticed that the next sentence reads: Kommer borrningen däremot in flackt mot folationen, tenderar borrningen i stället att följa foliationsstråket. So a distinction is being drawn between “tvärt in” and “flackt”. Does anyone want to comment?
Peer comment(s):

neutral Sven Petersson : I think one must insert a ’nearly’; the 'kommer borrningen att vika av vinkelrätt mot foliationen' will otherwise be meaningless gobbledygook.
6 hrs
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1 hr

goes straight into

Just a suggestion. Don't know anything about geology.

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2007-10-31 23:30:31 GMT)
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I suspect the movement of the drilling is not merely in the direction of or "towards" the foliation but that it actually reaches and touches it. Maybe "goes perpendicularly into" (but see my reponse to Sven below)

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2007-10-31 23:39:35 GMT)
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Possibly "kommer flackt in mot etc." could be rendered "approaches the foliation in a smooth angle" or in some similar way.
Note from asker:
I have just noticed that the next sentence reads: Kommer borrningen däremot in flackt mot folationen, tenderar borrningen i stället att följa foliationsstråket. So a distinction is being drawn between “tvärt in” and “flackt”. Does anyone want to comment?
Peer comment(s):

disagree Sven Petersson : Please see my answer!
2 hrs
Emphasizing the perpendicularity may happen to be correct, but it may also be an overinterpretation.
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