Dec 4, 2007 10:27
16 yrs ago
German term

dass die Natur uns beim 'gemeinhin Besten' verlässt

German to English Art/Literary Philosophy From a 15. century text
12. sentence in Balthazar Grazian's The Oracle, a Manual, or The Art of Worldly Wisdom, quoted in a text I'm working on. (I don't speak Spanish.)
gemeinhin Besten means "best average" as in "best average speed" but I'm not sure how to translate it in this context.
"Nature has left us with something mediocre?"

Discussion

Alison Kirkland (asker) Dec 4, 2007:
Published English version? Admittedly I haven't got further than Wikiquote in searching for an English version. In the timespan, only an online version would help me. If I find an English version of this sentence I'll post it.
Francis Lee (X) Dec 4, 2007:
Is there no published English version?

Proposed translations

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Nature scarcely ever gives us the very best

Is what is given in the translation published online at:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/aww/aww10.htm

There is no beauty unadorned and no excellence that would not become barbaric if it were not supported by artifice: this remedies the evil and improves the good. Nature scarcely ever gives us the very best; for that we must have recourse to art. Without this the best of natural dispositions is uncultured, and half is lacking to any excellence if training is absent. Every one has something unpolished without artificial training, and every kind of excellence needs some polish.
Peer comment(s):

agree Paul Cohen
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Mother Nature quits when things start to get really groovy

"gemeinhin" here means usually or most often. "Besten" means just that, the best.
My free translation attempt may not fit your register though.
Note from asker:
unfortunately you're right about the register
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3 hrs

nature leaves us mired in mediocrity

without much context vielleicht richtig so.
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