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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Lofthaus

English translation:

loft house

Added to glossary by Z.E. Ball
Mar 31, 2008 16:00
16 yrs ago
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German term

Lofthaus

German to English Tech/Engineering Real Estate
I am translating an article from FOCUS about property in various German cities - does anyone know a good English term for the above? I don't think it translates neatly into English and was going to put in a note: if anyone knows otherwise, I would love to have a few suggestions!
Proposed translations (English)
4 loft house
3 +2 converted warehouse
4 loft apartment
4 penthouse apartment
3 +1 loft building
4 loft-style dwelling
4 -2 loft / loft conversion
Change log

Apr 1, 2008 10:26: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Other" to "Tech/Engineering"

Apr 3, 2008 13:16: Z.E. Ball Created KOG entry

Discussion

Z.E. Ball Apr 3, 2008:
Thanks. Am glad I could help....sometimes KISS is the best solution.
Hilary Davies Shelby Mar 31, 2008:
erm - "conversation" should, of course, be "conversion" - sorry! It's late ;-).
Hilary Davies Shelby Mar 31, 2008:
an industrial-type feel about it. I've skimmed the article, but don't see anything to explain the name. I'm wondering if it's one of those seemingly randomly-chosen "eingedeutscht" words which sounded good to the architect at the time?
Hilary Davies Shelby Mar 31, 2008:
Thanks J - was hoping that more info would make it easier! ;-))). It can't be a conversation, as it's built from scratch, but i'm not sure what makes it "loft"? It's not an attic, nor a warehouse, although the modern design in your example does have
Jessica West (asker) Mar 31, 2008:
Hi - thanks for everyone's responses here. Unfortunately it's one of those articles where the word is only mentioned in a heading about a couple who live an apartment like this in Berlin and who had designed it themselves. Doing some research I found this site: - http://lofthaus.info/html/Exposee_Lofthaus_Tel.030-31012999....
Seems to be a bit like a warehouse conversion..?
Hilary Davies Shelby Mar 31, 2008:
Hello! Can you give us any more information? We've run the gamut from penthouses to attics to converted warehouses here - not sure which would best fit the type of accommodation your article mentions!
Colin Rowe Mar 31, 2008:
Wasn't "Lofthouse" an England footballer? Not an oxymoron back in those days...

Proposed translations

6 hrs
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loft house

I'd simply stick with loft house....take a look at some of these examples.
http://www.american-architects.com/index.php?seite=ny_profil...

http://www.realestate-switzerland.ch/lofthouse-baden-aargau-...
"Attractive and very modern styled lofthouse in Baden."

http://www.japan-architect.co.jp/english/2maga/ja/ja0060/wor...
"work Loft House
location Nagoya, Aichi Prefecture
architects Shinichi Ogawa & Architects"

http://www.30elm.com/portfolios/140-vertical-loft-house

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=220209100...
New Modern Architectural Los Angeles Loft-House $849,000.00

http://www.4321.co.il/property/property.asp?p=33503&name=Fra...


www.primelocation.com/international-property/details/id/LUX... - 67k
http://www.loft-zug.ch/architect-villa-house-vineyards-aarga...

http://www.channel4.com/4homes/diyandbuilding/buildinghouse/...

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http://www.bbaworld.com/pages/portfolio/Residential/23.html

The list goes on.....seem like lovely places to live....nice and airy. :-)

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"One of the coolest bachelor pads I’ve ever seen, built in Tucson, AZ in 2002. This passive solar loft house has two insulated masonry walls, each facing east and west with floor to ceiling glass at the north and south facing rooms."
http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://i73.photobucket...
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "thanks - I think too that a "Lofthaus" is a particular style of house in its own right so I'm going to stick with loft house :)"
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converted warehouse

as a suggestion
Peer comment(s):
agree SinnerAtta : That would be my choice because I just embarrassed myself by citing two links, both of which are showing pictures of "attic conversions", at least in North American parlance....
3 hrs
thank you
agree BirgitBerlin : I think this would be it, because the use of the word "loft" is misleading. "Loft" doesn't necessarily mean "attic" in German. Germans tend to use foreign words without knowing what they actually mean.
7 hrs
...and thank you, 'flat' derived from 'flat rate' is another example that makes me cringe
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28 mins

loft apartment

Here's an interesting article which even includes "Lofthaus"-type flats in London...:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20010407/ai_...
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37 mins

penthouse apartment

a more trendy way of describing an attic
Peer comment(s):
neutral BrettMN : Except that a "penthouse" is something very specific that connotes luxury: a deluxe apartment at the top of a (usually) high building.
1 day 6 hrs
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45 mins

loft building

Might be a building with multiple lofts, in which case "apartment" wouldn't work.
Reference:

http://www.answers.com/topic/loft-building?cat=technology

http://www.7x7sf.com/home_design/real_estate/6004781.html

Peer comment(s):
agree Paul Skidmore : w/o further context this seems appropriately generic
7 mins
neutral David Moore (X) : Hmmmm... I wouldn't care to live in the accommodation you first reference defines as a "loft building".../And anyway, isn't your second one specifically American? Why, when the poster is located in the UK?
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loft / loft conversion

Damit weiß jeder Interessent, was gemeint ist.

Siehe auch:
www.loftconversionwarehouse.com
www.amazon.co.uk/Loft-Conversions-Planning-Completing-Conve...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-03-31 19:10:00 GMT)
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So sorry! Baaad examples ... I added these links without taking a closer look. But to be sure, we're talking about converted warehouse space. Normally in these parts, a loft conversion is partitioned warehouse space made into living quarters /studios, what-have-you.
Peer comment(s):
disagree BirgitBerlin : In Deutschland ist ein Loft aber nicht immer ein Dachgeschoss. Das kann auch eine Fabriketage sein. Das ist mal wieder ein Fall von falscher Verwendung eines englischen Wortes in der Deutschen Sprache.
1 hr
Wieso, hatte jemand "Dachgeschoss" gesagt? Nicht in meiner Antwort!
disagree Hilary Davies Shelby : In the UK, a "loft conversion" is specifically the conversion of a "loft" (UK word for "attic") into living space. It doesn't refer to warehouse space. "Warehouse conversion" is quite different.
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loft-style dwelling

Then they built a loft-style dwelling with commercial materials, concrete and metal, inside and out. ...
seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2003/1012/cover04.html

Type, Loft style Dwelling.
www.immobilien-fuerte.de/LP02/EnDescr.htm

Hendler was also involved in the construction of a loft-style dwelling that was featured in a DWELL Magazine cover story ...
www.artsandarchitecture.psu.edu/news/newsletter/sp04/p12.ht...

What we end up is an open loft-style dwelling, that is both affordable, and architecturally compelling.
www.chrcatlanta.org/designbuild_feaprojects.html
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